- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. If there is interest in developing this content toward a limited merger, I would be willing to provide a userspace copy. Vanamonde ( Talk) 02:26, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
Myth Makers: Trixie in Toyland
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Non-notable shovelware, for a console with tons of it. Also nominating:
QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:51, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. QuicoleJR ( talk) 19:51, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Obviously a game just being low quality is not enough for it to be removed (see also
Vroom in the Night Sky), but I couldn't find sufficient significant coverage for any of the games; for the most part they only got an IGN review.
ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (
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20:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save A game that has enough info to be on this site
DaRealToonChance (
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00:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Enough info? Truth ≠ Notability. The game is not notable.
QuicoleJR (
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14:10, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save Being considered one of the worst Wii games period makes it notable. I just came across this page because I'm researching female protagonist games and have seen way more games of less notability that have pages, but I find any info on these games valuable. I would vote to keep it.
Mroddman (
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23:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and
WP:ITSUSEFUL are not valid arguments.
QuicoleJR (
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23:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- What about it being considered one of the worst wii games and one of a handful of wii female protagonist games? That does not make it notable?
Mroddman (
talk)
23:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- No. Read
WP:GNG.
QuicoleJR (
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23:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- I find multiple sources saying it's one of the worst Wii games. I listed one in my other reply to you. Mroddman ( talk) 23:52, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- No. Read
WP:GNG.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
23:50, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- What about it being considered one of the worst wii games and one of a handful of wii female protagonist games? That does not make it notable?
Mroddman (
talk)
23:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS and
WP:ITSUSEFUL are not valid arguments.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
23:47, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save Being considered one of the worst Wii games period makes it notable. I just came across this page because I'm researching female protagonist games and have seen way more games of less notability that have pages, but I find any info on these games valuable. I would vote to keep it.
Mroddman (
talk)
23:44, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Enough info? Truth ≠ Notability. The game is not notable.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
14:10, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save A game that has enough info to be on this site
DaRealToonChance (
talk)
00:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete I've checked Data Design Interactive's(the game's developer) website hoping some reviews would be listed but no luck. I found 2 PDF files mentioning Trixie in Toyland + the other two games but that's it [1], [2] Timur9008 ( talk) 04:07, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete. I was surprised that there was nothing besides the IGN link since I'd heard of it before. - Cukie Gherkin ( talk) 01:51, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - One of four pieces of copy and paste shovelware, non-notable in terms of reviews, reception and development. --
TheInsatiableOne (
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10:40, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save It is considered one of the worst Wii games and that seems like notoriety.
Mroddman (
talk)
23:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- 1. Do not vote twice.
- 2. Notability is based off of sources, not being considered something.
QuicoleJR (
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23:49, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-10-worst-wii-games Watchmojo listed as the 4th worst Wii game. That's a source confirming its noteriety.
Mroddman (
talk)
23:51, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- I believe WatchMojo is listed as an unreliable source.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
23:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- I would imagine the same thing for historical facts and similar, but this is essentially a published review from a large organization. And I can't find anything that says WatchMojo is not accepted as a reliable source, but if you can find one I'll concede there. The only thing I see is that Youtube channels are generally not accepted unless it's from a large organization which WatchMojo is, but also this is a written article. I do think the WatchMojo listicle regardless confirms it's notoriety, the game does have a reputation if even if the gaming press can't be easily found now. It's definitely recognized as such in the Youtube community and other online communities.
Mroddman (
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00:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly, lists are usually not considered SIGCOV. You can fact-check me on that one at
WT:VG if you like.
QuicoleJR (
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00:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is the closest thing I can find: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:NLISTITEM&redirect=no "Content coverage within a given article or list (i.e. whether something is noteworthy enough to be mentioned within the article or list) is governed by the principle of due weight, balance, and other content policies." It appears to me it adheres to due weight and balance policies from what I understand, though admittedly I'm not an expert on wikipedia policy. Mroddman ( talk) 00:18, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly, lists are usually not considered SIGCOV. You can fact-check me on that one at
WT:VG if you like.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
00:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I would imagine the same thing for historical facts and similar, but this is essentially a published review from a large organization. And I can't find anything that says WatchMojo is not accepted as a reliable source, but if you can find one I'll concede there. The only thing I see is that Youtube channels are generally not accepted unless it's from a large organization which WatchMojo is, but also this is a written article. I do think the WatchMojo listicle regardless confirms it's notoriety, the game does have a reputation if even if the gaming press can't be easily found now. It's definitely recognized as such in the Youtube community and other online communities.
Mroddman (
talk)
00:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- I believe WatchMojo is listed as an unreliable source.
QuicoleJR (
talk)
23:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-10-worst-wii-games Watchmojo listed as the 4th worst Wii game. That's a source confirming its noteriety.
Mroddman (
talk)
23:51, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Save It is considered one of the worst Wii games and that seems like notoriety.
Mroddman (
talk)
23:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
- Merge with Ninjabread Man? Hell, if Trixie, Anubis II and Rock 'n' Roll Adventures are pretty much reskins of the same game without enough independent coverage, it would probably be necessary to just incorporate stuff from those articles and briefly mention it on Ninjabread Man's development section. Blake Gripling ( talk) 12:41, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
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