The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was userfy. However, I will be looking into the pattern of editing that went into the creation of this article. BD2412 T 01:08, 21 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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Sources available seem to be promotional, and not in compliance with GNG. Tried BEFORE but couldn't find anything. Comments please. ─ The Aafī ( ^talk) 14:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ─ The Aafī ( ^talk) 14:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. ─ The Aafī ( ^talk) 14:45, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Comment. The creator of the page left the following comment on the talk for this AfD. @ Itgemgirl1: generally, if you have a comment on an ongoing articles for deletion (AfD) discussion, it goes on the main page for the AfD, not on the talk. AleatoryPonderings ( talk) 15:29, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Hi, recently my article on Melissa B. who is a popular artist in America who has records, been in tv shows and has a book got rejected. I have been working on this with alot of research and using trustworthy sources and the search engines. Please guide me on what needs to be done as I have seen several other pages that had same sources of what I used. You can't just mark a page for deletion without looking at all the research that was put into this. So please point out exactly what needs to be fixed in order for this page to be worked on. Itgemgirl1 ( talk) 15:26, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Delete (reluctantly) - This is a close call because the singer has some notice in the industry, but I don't think it adds up to enough notability in her own right. Most of the easily-found sources appear to be promotional reprints of press releases, often with adjectives like "inspirational" that are unlikely to be used by impartial journalists. She has been mentioned occasionally in stories about other things (e.g the Google Glass reference), and she won a Hollywood Music in Media Award but that fact is only mentioned on the organization's own website. Her non-profit group "Girl Geek Dinners NYC" also has no reliable media notice. Back around 2016 she got a few media mentions as a singer to watch, but little has happened since then. Searching is tough because "Melissa B." leads to a lot of other people with the same first name and middle initial, while her birth name "Melissa Walton" and another stage name "Melissa Bailey" don't lead to much specificity either. This is a very long vote because I really spent a lot of time trying to come up with some good sources for this singer, but all I found were fragmented tidbits that just don't add up. –– DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 22:46, 13 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Comment. I would like to ask for * Userfying: Request that the page be transferred into my userspace, where I can take my time to make necessary changes, or transfer parts to one or more other articles. This way I can make sure that this article is looked over with other eyes before submitting it again. I also would like to get another admin to look at this as well as I know for sure the amount of research I have done on this subject is pretty well done and I am finding more valid cited sources that is based on the most approved sources. Itgemgirl1 ( talk) 11:32, 14 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• Weak Keep or Userfy if Too Soon. Indications of the music career, IT work, and the non-profit, make me think this person has some notability, at least, and am attempting to beef-up the article. Just need some time. GenQuest ^{"Talk to Me"} 03:12, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete I couldn't find anything on her at all. Perhaps its the name changes, but I can't see a single mention. Nothing on social media. 4k subscribers on Youtube. scope_creep ^Talk 11:22, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep There is alot of information that took time to find about this artist. There are alot of great cited sources we have been finding. It takes time to dig and find information in order to piece it together but this subject does have and we have proven it. Just randomly doing small searches is not enough that why it's called research. User:GenQuest what do you think? Itgemgirl1 ( talk) 11:43, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply

• @ Itgemgirl1: Who is the "we" you refer to? Bishonen | tålk 18:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC). reply

• @ Bishonen: "WE" means the community here on Wikipedia. Thats what I mean. itgemgirl1 | tålk
• Comment. I have been doing a little more research on her technology side with the Girl Geek Dinners. Did a search and found these to help beef up the article a little more. These links can help with alot more. Did a Search as " Melissa B. girl geek" and a few of these came up. ^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]} — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itgemgirl1 ( talk • contribs)

• Draftify or userfy as the article's creator requested above. Largoplazo ( talk) 11:58, 15 September 2020 (UTC) reply
• Draftify or userfyas requested, for future improvement when possible, imv Atlantic306 ( talk) 00:21, 19 September 2020 (UTC) reply

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