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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Sulfurboy ( talk) 14:53, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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{{{Not notable according to Wikipedia's guidelines. The person is insignificant. He didn't win any awards in Czech Republic, any contribution to this sport. He even doesn't play football anymore.}}} Terez666 ( talk) 10:36, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:31, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 12:43, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Nominator's reasons are wrong. He has played 6 times for Slavia Prague in a fully professional league. Winning nothing/being retired from football are no reasons to delete. Paprčiak has moved onto modelling and acting and has some coverage for that. Dougal18 ( talk) 13:55, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
DeleteA lot people played in Slavia but its not reason to be on wikipedia. Here should be people who have achieved something special or great beyond the norm of football. No ordinary player who retired in 25. -- Terez666 ( talk) 14:40, 23 April 2020 (UTC) This comment originally contained the words "and didnt achieve any awards. If so this should be on czech wikipedia and not on english wikipedia." but they were deleted after I made my reply below. Phil Bridger ( talk) 20:03, 24 April 2020 (UTC)- There are several things in the nomination statement that go against English Wikipedia policies and guidelines. It is not necessary for awards to have been won for a subject to be notable, an encyclopedia covers history as well as current events, and "English" and "Czech" are simply the languages in which the respective Wikipedias are written, not a restriction on what topics are covered.
Phil Bridger (
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17:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- You get me wrong. It doesnt mean that he is not notable cause he didnt win any awards. It doesnt matter but i just said.. plus like even that he was ordinary fotball player. There is no any article in newspaper or on internet about his professional life or just about his carrer so why is he so special for wikipedia? what did he achieve? thats my point.--
Terez666 (
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19:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Please don't delete parts of your comments after someone has replied to them, because it makes it impossible for others to understand the replies. If you no longer wish to stand by them then use <s></s> to strike them.
Phil Bridger (
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20:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- People are considered remarkable if they have gained significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and subject-independent. Where do you have more published secondary sources about his football career? I didn't find anything. Page has only two references: 1. Its about the general match, not specifically about M. Paprčiak. 2.It's seems like not independent source and there are only one sentences about his football career that he played and left. So an ordinary player. Nothing special for wikipedia, where people should be: WP: SPORTSPERSON-- Terez666 ( talk) 21:57, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Please don't delete parts of your comments after someone has replied to them, because it makes it impossible for others to understand the replies. If you no longer wish to stand by them then use <s></s> to strike them.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
20:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- You get me wrong. It doesnt mean that he is not notable cause he didnt win any awards. It doesnt matter but i just said.. plus like even that he was ordinary fotball player. There is no any article in newspaper or on internet about his professional life or just about his carrer so why is he so special for wikipedia? what did he achieve? thats my point.--
Terez666 (
talk)
19:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- There are several things in the nomination statement that go against English Wikipedia policies and guidelines. It is not necessary for awards to have been won for a subject to be notable, an encyclopedia covers history as well as current events, and "English" and "Czech" are simply the languages in which the respective Wikipedias are written, not a restriction on what topics are covered.
Phil Bridger (
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17:30, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL with a number of games; needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 12:45, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Basic criteria: Players who have played in any Tier 1 International Match, as defined by FIFA and he didnt. Where is sources or articles about that? None,There must be articles or references in multiple published secondary sources.-- Terez666 ( talk) 13:13, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - meets criteria two of
WP:NFOOTY: "Players who have played...in a competitive game between two teams from fully professional leagues will generally be regarded as notable. See
WP:FPL." He appeared for Slavia in the
Czech First League.
Keskkonnakaitse (
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15:23, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- but there is not proper articles and references about that.--
Terez666 (
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17:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Are you disputing that the
IDNES sources in the article confirm that he has played for Slavia? And is there a reason why the only edits that you have ever made are trying to get this article deleted?
Phil Bridger (
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18:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- And before making any more edits you should reinstate the content that you deleted in your comments above, because my valid observations in reply look like non sequiturs now.
Phil Bridger (
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18:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- No. I started with that cause I saw that its not properly done and there is missing proper references. On that article IDNES is no proper info about him. And its just one and its not enough for wikipedia. -- Terez666 ( talk) 19:24, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- And before making any more edits you should reinstate the content that you deleted in your comments above, because my valid observations in reply look like non sequiturs now.
Phil Bridger (
talk)
18:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Are you disputing that the
IDNES sources in the article confirm that he has played for Slavia? And is there a reason why the only edits that you have ever made are trying to get this article deleted?
Phil Bridger (
talk)
18:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- but there is not proper articles and references about that.--
Terez666 (
talk)
17:33, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, meets WP:NFOOTY as having played fully professional footerball. Coolabahapple ( talk) 03:18, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, passes WP:NFOOTY. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 13:52, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy keep per WP:CSK #3. I smell a hidden agenda. Anyone else? KingSkyLord ( talk | contribs) 20:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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