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The result was redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 05:58, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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Not notable. Candidate for political office, fails WP:POLITICIAN. Sources provided fail WP:GNG. WP:TOOSOON. Author de-prod'd with the explanation "Jenkins was notable before being selected as Madaleno's running mate. See the Awards section. Influential Marylanders, Maryland's Top 100 Women, etc.", but she's not notable for being a candidate's running mate, and winning local awards does not make one notable without the requisite press coverage that doesn't exist here. – Muboshgu ( talk) 19:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- She's a state officeholder who's served under three different governors and been involved in state politics for over 17 years, as the Washington Post article notes.
--MopTop (
talk) 19:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not an office that meets
WP:POLITICIAN, and the only good sourcing about her is from the announcement of her Lt Gov candidacy, which does not establish GNG. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 20:00, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- The State of Maryland website is not a good source? Okay, I'll add some more sources while we wait for others to join the discussion. In the meantime, I have to ask, do you really think that when the guidelines were written, the intent was to keep us from creating articles about people like Jenkins? We have articles about fictional characters from TV sitcoms, and this is what you're itching to delete, seriously? A woman who worked for three governors and was instrumental in passing important state legislation, a serious candidate for public office whose name voters are going to be Googling in search of information. Maybe she should get butt implants like Kim Kardashian, then she'll be notable. I think adherence to the rules should be tempered by common sense.
--MopTop (
talk) 02:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- To support notability, a source has to be independent of the topic whose notability is under discussion. A person does not get a Wikipedia article by having "coverage" in press releases from own employer — she has to receive media attention from sources other than her own employer. Bearcat ( talk) 22:58, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- The State of Maryland website is not a good source? Okay, I'll add some more sources while we wait for others to join the discussion. In the meantime, I have to ask, do you really think that when the guidelines were written, the intent was to keep us from creating articles about people like Jenkins? We have articles about fictional characters from TV sitcoms, and this is what you're itching to delete, seriously? A woman who worked for three governors and was instrumental in passing important state legislation, a serious candidate for public office whose name voters are going to be Googling in search of information. Maybe she should get butt implants like Kim Kardashian, then she'll be notable. I think adherence to the rules should be tempered by common sense.
--MopTop (
talk) 02:34, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Not an office that meets
WP:POLITICIAN, and the only good sourcing about her is from the announcement of her Lt Gov candidacy, which does not establish GNG. –
Muboshgu (
talk) 20:00, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- She's a state officeholder who's served under three different governors and been involved in state politics for over 17 years, as the Washington Post article notes.
--MopTop (
talk) 19:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
A strong black female businesswoman/politician--why would you want to delete this?--Spaceanimal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceanimals ( talk • contribs) 23:47, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu ( talk) 19:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. – Muboshgu ( talk) 19:02, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 ( talk) 20:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018. The campaign is notable, even if the candidate for Lt. Governor may not yet be. -- Enos733 ( talk) 04:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Delete She is not a "state-wide office holder" she is a minor figure in a state government. She is no where near meeting notability criteria. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 04:43, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Comment This is a "serious candidate". I'll be surprised is all the coverage is not already there - it just needs finding Victuallers ( talk) 21:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018, without prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can do better than this. Being the planned running mate of a person who still has not as of yet even won the primary race to be his party's candidate for governor yet is not an automatic notability freebie in and of itself — but nothing else here is an WP:NPOL pass either, and the referencing isn't even within 100 miles of good enough to get her over WP:GNG — there's are just two references here that are both independent of and substantively about her, but one is just a reprint of a company's staffing announcement that she was hired for a not-inherently notable role and the other is the candidacy announcement itself. Wikipedia notability is not a value judgement — we don't deem a person notable enough for an article just because they've done something impressive, we deem a person notable enough for an article when they've received enough reliable source coverage to clear GNG for that achievement, but that's not what the sources here are showing. Bearcat ( talk) 22:56, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018. Being a candidate for LtGov in a primary doesn't meet WP:NPOL. [1] is substantial coverage separate from her campaign, but one page isn't enough to meet GNG. I do note that even if she doesn't win the primary, there's a good chance there will be enough coverage of her at some point in the future. power~enwiki ( π, ν) 05:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018, note however that my searches found a long profile of her, Luwanda Jenkins Joins Cordish Companies in Diversity Role, that is already on the page, it ran in a regional ethnic (black) newspaper 2016, well before she was a candidate. But coverage of her activity is not sufficient to pass WP:SIGCOV or WP:POLITICIAN. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:41, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Keep: Clearly notable prior to her current candidacy, adequate independent coverage backed by official government sources establishing her position and her notability within her position. I disagree with the characterization that GNG means someone needs specific coverage for individual accomplishments, GNG is met by coverage of that individual, whatever it was they are doing. That said, I would agree that the article quality could be improved. Montanabw (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
- Redirect to Maryland gubernatorial election, 2018. Not independently notable. PhilKnight ( talk) 01:01, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
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