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Also, keep in mind, the above are all English-language references. Surely there are more in Chinese. There are actually very few LGBT establishments in China, even in Shanghai, which has a population of 20+ million. ---
Another Believer(
Talk) 17:19, 30 December 2015 (UTC)reply
these are primarily travel guide listings. And a lot of them would have got their information straight from the Cafe itself.
LibStar (
talk) 03:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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UY ScutiTalk 16:14, 6 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - While understanding Another Believer's point, there simply isn't enough in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources to show notability. Granted "there may be" in Chinese sources, but that's not a valid argument. My searches did not turn up anything to show it passes
WP:GNG.
Onel5969TT me 12:54, 13 January 2016 (UTC)reply
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UY ScutiTalk 16:28, 13 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete – searches for Chinese sources do not turn up anything reliable.
sst✈ 16:36, 13 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment/Request: I've expanded the article a bit using a couple of the sources mentioned above. I find it hard to believe there are not Chinese sources covering the venue, but I can't argue otherwise so I will assume good faith. IF this article is deemed inappropriate for inclusion at English Wikipedia, may I suggest redirecting and/or merging the content to
LGBT culture in Shanghai? Again, I would prefer a standalone article, but if consensus dictates otherwise, I think redirecting is better than deleting. Thanks. ---
Another Believer(
Talk) 17:11, 13 January 2016 (UTC)reply
I would not mind redirecting. I cannot find any Chinese name for this company. Most Chinese language results are blogs, aggregator websites and self-published sources. I searched using several Chinese search engines and selecting Chinese results with Google.
sst✈ 04:48, 14 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as mentioned, perhaps not yet solidly better notable.
SwisterTwistertalk 06:19, 14 January 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete no evidence of meeting
wp:gng, travel guides are not reliable sources
166.164.37.67 (
talk) 15:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)reply
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