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The result was delete. North America 1000 08:37, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
Logan Carter
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR his filmography is made up of bit parts as "hooker" "female impersonator" "transvestite" etc Domdeparis ( talk) 12:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
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- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. SergeWoodzing ( talk) 16:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete fails way below the level of notability for actors. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:17, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:17, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Keep Sufficiently noticeable appeareances in movies where at least one of his roles was integral to the plot. The fact that he there played drag queens and hookers should not be used against him. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 18:34, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- You misunderstood my nomination I believe. It is not the fact that his roles were drag queens or hookers but the fact that he didn't have named roles and clearly just bit parts because he is credited as "drag queen" or "hooker" hence my speech marks in the nomination. Which film was his role integral to the plot? That might help to prove notability
Domdeparis (
talk) 18:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- There are YouTube links from some of those films. I saw once that he was a murder victim around which the drama centered. I cannot name the picture at this moment and I do not have time to research it. Sorry! Much more could have been done on Carter, as rare and remarkable as it was that a man played a woman (not a transvestite) in a noticeable movie part. Haven't these things been mentioned in the article(s?) linked to in the refs? Coulldn't you have missed something in this case also, in the heat of all these nominations you rushed to do? --
SergeWoodzing (
talk) 19:07, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- The job of cleaning up after COI editors that have gone undeclared for a number of years can be a long task and I am aware that some of the discussions will end up with keep decisions but this is whole point. If there had been disclosure at the beginning then this would not be necessary. Everything that is done before disclosure needs to be checked out...what a waste of time, if only the COI editors had been honest from the start...a lesson for us all I think.
Domdeparis (
talk) 11:35, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- You are Compostela right, Domdeparis.
Adville (
talk) 14:22, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- COI is not in itself relevant to deletion, no matter what you and your new tag-along Swedish pal think. Thousands of COI articles are kept because they are well sourced anyway. This article was only created because there were independent sources about this man which looked reliable. There was nothing sufficient in any information the creator had on his own. Nobody I know has ever created an article on Wikipedia without believing, according to the old-fashioned (?) principle of good faith, that there were sufficient reliable sources. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 15:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- You are Compostela right, Domdeparis.
Adville (
talk) 14:22, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- The job of cleaning up after COI editors that have gone undeclared for a number of years can be a long task and I am aware that some of the discussions will end up with keep decisions but this is whole point. If there had been disclosure at the beginning then this would not be necessary. Everything that is done before disclosure needs to be checked out...what a waste of time, if only the COI editors had been honest from the start...a lesson for us all I think.
Domdeparis (
talk) 11:35, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- There are YouTube links from some of those films. I saw once that he was a murder victim around which the drama centered. I cannot name the picture at this moment and I do not have time to research it. Sorry! Much more could have been done on Carter, as rare and remarkable as it was that a man played a woman (not a transvestite) in a noticeable movie part. Haven't these things been mentioned in the article(s?) linked to in the refs? Coulldn't you have missed something in this case also, in the heat of all these nominations you rushed to do? --
SergeWoodzing (
talk) 19:07, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- You misunderstood my nomination I believe. It is not the fact that his roles were drag queens or hookers but the fact that he didn't have named roles and clearly just bit parts because he is credited as "drag queen" or "hooker" hence my speech marks in the nomination. Which film was his role integral to the plot? That might help to prove notability
Domdeparis (
talk) 18:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Fails NACTOR by a wide margin. GNG isn't satisfied either; the best I could find is a passing mention in the book Jack Nichols, Gay Pioneer. Clarityfiend ( talk) 22:07, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete, Clear delete if nothing new comes up. I have also been in famous Swedish movies and the only written about me was "drugdealer", "ex-drug adict" in the after text. (That was my roles;-) ). That doesn't give me notability. Adville ( talk) 14:22, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- I can't see how anything you personally have done is relevant. Please keep your comments relevant! There's way too much irrelevant stuff all over. Makes it very hard to do any work of this kind. -- SergeWoodzing ( talk) 15:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Insufficient RS, questionable circumstances of creation, etc. Agricola44 ( talk) 15:23, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails GNG and the film appearances are trivial in nature. Kierzek ( talk) 18:20, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
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