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The result was speedy keep per WP:SK#1. A valid rationale for deletion has not been presented. For examples of valid deletion rationales, see WP:DEL-REASON. North America 1000 12:09, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Article cites no sources whatsoever since at least September 2015 Kellerpm ( talk) 23:58, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Consensus is that this band does not meet notability guidelines. North America 1000 00:18, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Miss Fortune (band)

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Non-notable band, fails WP:MUSIC. Released one album. Source that's supposed to show the "critical acclaim" for their album just says the album will be streamed. Yintan  23:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Sometimes it is, but not automatically. When AllMusic was primarily a print publication it had tight criteria for inclusion. Not so much these days, evolving since it began partnering with Rovi/TiVo database for its content. While the site continues to have independent editorial oversight, their standards have dipped to list bands whose only criteria is that they have produced a product(s) that is offered for retail distribution. A band can be listed that otherwise does not meet a single qualification per WP:MUSIC. AllMusic entries as a reference need to be assessed on a case by case basis. ShelbyMarion ( talk) 04:05, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. I was looking at the altpress.com and allmusic.com sources for a bit, but I decided that they were based on press releases by the band (and that altpress.com's reliability was also in question, seeing as it seems to exist to promote little-known bands). Thus, fails WP:MUSIC. Icebob99 ( talk) 14:54, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was Keep. Article has been improved since nomination and just makes the threshold. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC). reply

Dorothy Berry

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Non-notable artist. Fails WP:ARTIST and WP:GNG. Note that exhibition catalogues are not independent and that the exhibition referenced was in-house. Author has conflict of interest. Flat Out ( talk) 23:11, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Comment - I can't see the collection to which you refer, the national gallery claim is not sourced. Would you mind clarifying, if I have missed something I'll withdraw Flat Out ( talk) 00:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC) reply
While I concur the author submitted a large number of artists, several of which apparently had no collections at all, I searched and this confirms she's collected by the national gallery. SwisterTwister talk 00:45, 6 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep Very borderline wikipedia technical general notability but works being held by the NGA I suggest confirms notability. NGA holding meets WP:CREATIVE/ WP:ARTIST. Editor COI is not grounds for deletion. Notability and verifiability of the article content is. And this content seems okay or fixable. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:49, 7 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment If the article makes the claim that work by an artist is in the collection of a national museum, and there are issues with verifying that claim, I would suggest a failed verification template and a discussion with the editor who made the claim, instead of an AfD nomination. But, like I said at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brigid Hanrahan, I am concerned about the lack of critical reception. Even for artist who technically meet some of the secondary notability criteria of WP:ARTIST, for example being represented in a collection, we still need someone else to write something we can base an article on. I would really like to see some in-depth reviews from reliable, independent sources, and artshub is not an independent source. Mduvekot ( talk) 04:02, 9 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Looking at WP:ARTIST#4:
"The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums."
a) Nope. b) No evidence of being a substantial part of a significant exhibition. c) Nope. d)No evidence of being represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums. NGA holding alone does not meet criteria. (more info on the Home Sweet Home NGA collection found here and here running 11 October 2003 – 18 January 2004)
Wikipedia is not a free webhost for the collection of artist bios for the Northcote-based studio at Arts Project Australia. duffbeerforme ( talk) 07:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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Keep and develop or draftily. This is an example of an "outsider" artist - they are generally self taught, have what some consider "naive" aesthetics. Outsider artists operate outside of the "normal" power dynamics and systems of the commercial art market, the gallery and museum system. For more info on Outsider Art see here. Their outsider status does not diminish their importance, nor creativity, but does make them difficult to receive recognition. It takes time to research these types of individuals. I've done a bit of scoping around and there are other sources/references on this artist. To my mind, what is problematic is the way the article is written - it needs improvement and structure. I vote to keep it for now. Netherzone ( talk) 16:45, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Comment - you have voted keep but then below you note it doesn't meet encyclopedic standards. How does the subject meet Wp:GNG or WPNARTIST? Flat Out ( talk) 10:45, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
As per my comment above, I have begun to work on this article to improve it and hopefully bring it to encyclopedia standards. There is information out there on this artist, but one has to dig for it. I've worked on the format of the article, adding an info box, sections, copy editing, and citations. I will continue to do so as time permits. Please be patient. In my opinion, there is a need for more representation of artists with disabilities, and women artists. Dorothy Berry is notable in her field of Outsider Art. Netherzone ( talk) 17:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Strong keep Flat Out The artist meets WP:Artist in the following ways: She is regarded as an important figure in the field of Outsider Art (see references). The person created/played a major role in creating a significant collective body of work. Her work has been acquired for major collections at the National Gallery of Australia (Accession number: NGA 2002.431.466) and MADMusée, Liège, Belgium. Two of her lithographs, are held in the collection of the Centre for Australian Art. (please see citations) There has been a book published on her work. There have been four solo exhibits of her work, and it has been included in over 30 group exhibitions. Marginalized, vernacular outsider status should not subvert historical significance. Netherzone ( talk) 15:01, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 00:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Dan Harris (coach)

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WP:N. Has never played for or managed a professional football team (only an assistant coach). References given don't refer to him. Jmorrison230582 ( talk) 23:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:34, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Every ref is either a mere notice, or just a best place to work award or tribute from a local business journal, which is not reliable independent coverage. The use of such awards as refs implies there is nothing substantial. DGG ( talk ) 15:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC) DGG ( talk ) 15:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Speedy Delete Nothing is here! Only exist to promote itself as a directory Light2021 ( talk) 04:57, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was Delete. Well written article and I hope they gather enough independent sources for a future piece on them. But it lacks sufficient independent, reliable sources at present. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply


Apes of the State

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Non-notable band lacking in-depth support. References are minor local reporting and examples of songs. Fails to provide support for notability. reddogsix ( talk) 22:54, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was no consensus. T. Canens ( talk) 10:18, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Wikipedia is not a directory - VEVO views can be faked or botted, therefore the notability of this list is non-existent. No independent sources. The Banner  talk 22:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Perhaps the existence of independent coverage? Also, while YouTube has its faults, faking views is much more difficult to accomplish. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 21:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Are automated views more prevalent for Vevo? There's also plenty of third party sources dedicated to the subject in the article. Sources like Bllboard, one of the most mainstream third party sources in existence for music. Sergecross73 msg me 01:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. ( non-admin closure) NasssaNser ( talk/ edits) 05:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)} reply

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Searches are literally not finding anything better than either PR, interviews (regardless of wherever published) or his own authored articles and websites, none of that establishes notability itself and it's clear this currently only exists as a PR business listing; the NYT, naturally as shown, are his own authored articles as part a column, therefore that inherits him no automatic notability whatsoever and it's clear the history itself it's quite likely either the subject himself or someone involved started this PR article. While the author asked for restoration, and attempts are open to being made, there's enough to suggest an AfD is necessary to gauge the concerns and chances here. FWIW, this is what the author offered as sourcing but examining them still finds only announcements, business listings, quotes, etc. SwisterTwister talk 22:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Strong Keep: I added several reliable sources that cover the subject in various degrees of depth. There are hundreds of appearances of the subject in various outlets. I think there is little doubt that this doctor passes GNG, and I regret to say it, but this AfD and the initial G11 speedy deletion were very much so misguided. Medicalreporter ( talk) 13:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep SwisterTwister, I was wondering what research you did to determine this person is not notable? I quickly found NBCNews, AMA Wire, INewSource.org, and CNN, CNN, ISourceNews, and NBCNews are all reliable non-PR which give him significant coverage. If you look at the weakest sources which is AMA Wire, you can see that it is not written in Q&A format. ST as a sign of good faith, I would recommend you withdraw this nomination, this person is undisputedly notable. Valoem talk contrib 16:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Because they are still only announcements, mentions and similar and that's what the article contains since he's certainly not notable as an author so that section is unconvincing and everything else is simply about his speech events, company and similar. Notability is not inherited. SwisterTwister talk 17:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • @ SwisterTwister: Wait what? They are not announcements lets take a look at this source from the Modern Medicine Network, this is an in detailed source regarding Kevin Pho influence on the industry which he is repeatedly mentioned throughout the 7 pages article written by Ken Terry a third party source subject to editorial review. This is a reliable source by all means and certainly not an announcement. Valoem talk contrib 18:37, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
I disagree about the acceptability of the Modern Medicine article as a source. Modern Medicine is a UBM Life Sciences publication, and is a marketing and public-relations media company, see UBM Life Sciences is a an event, information, and marketing services business. UBM is owned by PR Newswire, the press release company.-- FeralOink ( talk) 01:21, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
It looks as though the parent company has a variety of business arms, but each of their publications lists editorial staff and writers: http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/content/about-us We cannot discredit an outlet because its parent company is multifaceted. Delta13C ( talk) 08:48, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • keep There are also numerous actual books that have content related to Kevin Pho. Our subject seems to be involved with something called "Wikipedia isn't really the patient's friend" (not relevant here though). There is an independent book review about a book written by him, as well as many independent writing in journals. Certainly this passes WP:GNG. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 21:06, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep — I added the source in Medical Economics that was mentioned above. The article is indeed well referenced with solid RSes, which are abundant enough to be easily apparent in web searches and Google Scholar. This AfD should be withdrawn. - Delta13C ( talk) 00:03, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete — This is a PR business listing. The subject is not notable, see SwisterTwister's remarks, and my comment about sources such as Medical Economics/Modern Medicine above. Pho is a blogger and is mostly cited for brief how-to's pertaining to online reputation management and social media.-- FeralOink ( talk) 01:49, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Could you be specific as to how this appears to be a PR listing? The content is neutral and consistent with dozens of RSes. On the topic for which he is an expert, this article is reflective of the subject's notability. - Delta13C ( talk) 08:45, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 10:20, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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First nominated over 2 months ago by Light2021 and recently PRODed by DGG and the mistake with the first AfD was that no one actually cared to notice the sources themselves were listed as "paid advertising by the company" or "Information supplied by the company", instantly making the sources unsuitable for our policies since they're not independent, regardless of whatever or whoever, and even examining the sources that were offered at the 1st AfD find this exactly. Even WP:CORPDEPTH itself states: "Sources must not be trivial about its company activities, finances or other triviality or be published in similar sources" and that fits here, and that's even a guideline, it becomes thicker when we apply WP:NOT which then itself states "Wikipedia is not a business webhost for simple company information, activities and other contents". We cannot be misused to blatantly host such companies for their own gains simply because their PR was republished. FWIW, my own searches still found nothing but: Company financials published and republished by the company itself, company interviews, company listings, company mentions and other triviality. Hence, we never actually had substance, and it's worse when we know for a fact, and our recent AfDs show it, that these publications willingly and heavily republish the company PR at their own will. Note that one of the comments in the 1st AfD was from a now-banned advertising account, so that's something else to consider in how this article is used. Now, the other thing to consider is the fact this was nominated in October with the suggestions of "Keep and improve" yet no improvements were made, a common sign in our policies that it can't be improved hence our policies support deletion. Note, also carefully examining the history shows that over half-doze India-based accounts and IPs have started contributing, including adding its own company materials, a common sign enough. SwisterTwister talk 20:56, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete. I strongly doubt notability; the sources are indeed essentially press releases or self-published. In any case the article is an advertisement, intend to make use of w Wikipedia as an additional source of PR for the company. Either reason alone is a sound basis for deletion. DGG ( talk ) 00:52, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep In regard of the imputed intent let me make clear that although I re-created this article after speedy deletion, and upheld it at the previous AfD, I have no contact with this company and no form of interest in it or external knowledge of it. I am basing my !vote solely on repeated coverage in national newspapers as listed in the first AfD, and if such coverage is now deemed to be merely "press releases or self-published ... republishing the company's PR", are we singling out the national press of India as incapable of editorial control, or are we now denying the relevance for notability of any coverage of commercial firms in any national newspaper anywhere? If national newspapers no longer count as independent reliable sources when assessing notability, I think we should all be told : Noyster (talk), 20:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
    An article which ends with a bold italic tagline saying "Travelkhana tracks trains to ensure that meals are delivered at the right time and the right seat" is not the work of an editorially sound process. That's not because it's from India, it's because obvious PR is obvious. -- joe decker talk 02:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:TOOSOON & WP:PROMO. For example, the article states that the company "claims to have served meals to 383,921 train passengers". The fact that the article replicates company claims suggests that it's both too soon for the subject to have an article and that the article existence serves to promote the business: i.e. there's no independent info on it, and this material can equally be housed on the company web site. K.e.coffman ( talk) 05:34, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 00:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

The Healthcare Leadership Academy

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Article is promotional in nature, written by a user with a COI. The sources seem to only be about the NHS and not actually about this organization. Article fails WP:GNG  {MordeKyle}   ☢ 20:31, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. No real consensus on whether to redirect (or where to), but I don't foresee much trouble for any editor who wishes to boldly implement a redirect somewhere appropriate. – Juliancolton |  Talk 00:39, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Misty Isle

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Notability is not established. TTN ( talk) 20:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. T. Canens ( talk) 10:21, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable product (software) of an equally non-notable company. Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

comment They are well known by who? Nothing in the article indicates this. Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:04, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep, Siacoin is a great piece of software that allows people to share files easily in an anonymous way free from surveillance. It is a leading project in its industry and has partnered with the HP minebox project which is quite big. Sia his constantly being worked on and has a large community. alexpimania ( talk) 23:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete A WP:BEFORE internet search has not produced any substantial coverage in reliable, independent sources. There is a company that uses a similar name but it's not the same as the subject of this article. I've noted that two of the users above, robvanmieghem and alexpimania are Single Purpose accounts working with the creator of the article. As a side note, the speed of filing an AfD has no bearing on any discussion - I don't know how long people really expect articles about non-notable subjects to remain on Wikipedia but there's no minimum cooling off period, particularly in the case of an article that's promotional in nature. Exemplo347 ( talk) 23:48, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment, The sia website is sia.tech. It is running and there are currently hundreds of users of Sia. There will soon be a lot more thoug as a result of the new minebox collaboration. alexpimania ( talk) 2:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
  • Keep Sia is a notable application and cloud storage network. It is the first, fully functional decentralized, peer-to-peer, zero-knowledge cloud storage network. The complexities of building this platform cannot be underestimated. The lead-developers of the software, Nebuluous Inc., was recently highlighted as a Top 2017 Boston area startup. They received $750,000 in venture capital seed funding in 2016. One of the lead-developers, David Vorvick, is a respected authority on blockchain technology and has spoken at several conferences on topics such as distributed storage and blockchain optimizations. None of the article authors, including myself, are affiliated with Nebuluous Inc in any capacity. Pmknutsen ( talk) 09:08, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Wait, how do you know that the other authors aren't affiliated with the company unless you're all working together on this article, about a niche software product that isn't mentioned in any reliable sources? That's very strange. Exemplo347 ( talk) 10:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
First, your assertion that Sia is a "niche" software that isn't mentioned in "any reliable source" is provably false. You can find media coverage of Sia here, here and here among other places. I can only assume that your internet search came up empty as a search for "Sia" only shows hits on a popular singer called "Sia". I know that the other author is not affiliated with Nebuluous Inc because s/he is not listed as an employee. I am not affiliated with Nebuluous Inc. either, in any capacity whatsoever. I have not been paid by them, or asked by them, to contribute to this article. Other than this, your assertion that I am lying about my non-affiliation with Nebuluous Inc. is offensive and comes off as bitey. pmknutsen ( talk) 12:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Firstly, let me get "bitey" out of the way - that's for new editors and you've been here since 2015. Secondly, you have access to a list of employees but you have no connection to the company? Exemplo347 ( talk) 13:37, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
This is public information (if you care to look). For company employees, see here, here, and here. Which one of us is either of those people? pmknutsen ( talk) 13:56, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
You have no way of knowing how many people work for or on behalf of this company, and you have no way of knowing who another editor does or doesn't work for, or on behalf of. Let's just leave it there. Exemplo347 ( talk) 19:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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@ Rezonansowy: do you mind clarifying which comment(s) you are referring to? As Exemplo347 pointed out, there seem to be a number of SPAs commenting in this AfD that aren't using actual deletion/keep criteria, so I'm confused as to what this would fall under? Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
@ Chrissymad: Sure. I mean that the present shape of this article after cleanup is IMO enough fine-sourced to be kept as a stub. -- RezonansowyakaRezy ( talk | contribs) 21:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Well color me doubly confused because you originally said keep before before the article was cleaned up... so which keep was it that you agreed with as the article previously stood? (also I realized after editing this how rude it may have come off, wasn't my intention, just confused as to how you agree with the article as it currently stands being subject to your original keep.) Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:44, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Yes you're right. I wanted to clean it myself, but another editor has made it already. -- RezonansowyakaRezy ( talk | contribs) 23:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
I'm really not trying to be WP:BITEy here but not a single keep in this thread has explained why this actually belongs on Wikipedia using actual inclusion criteria. The entire reason I nominated this is because it did not have credible claims of notability and despite several more edits and addition of references, this still remains the case. Not a single one of these sources establishes anything more than the existence of Sia. And I'm sorry, Sario528, articles are never 'finished', especially tech articles but initial inclusion should at least meet the bare minimum inclusion criteria and this doesn't. Perhaps it should be moved to a draft until notability can actually be established. Chrissymad ❯❯❯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:53, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
@ Chrissymad: I have to agree with you, this article reeks of promotional tones - robvanmieghem, alexpimania, and Exemplo347 User:pmknutsen may not be employees of the company, but the fact that they know so much about each other and what they are collaborating on seems to point towards an apparent conflict of interest in their editing of the article. Not only does this organization not appear to fulfill notability guidelines, but the manner in which the article has been created (and the content itself) provide no substance or positive contribution to the encyclopedia. These editors can argue all they want that Sia deserves an article (the burden of proof is on them, and I haven't found considerable proof of notability on my own) - but something they cannot defend is the fact that they present a conflict of interest and should not be involved in the creation of this article - their comments (multiple from each) show that they are personally vested somehow in this article creation. Garchy ( talk) 20:36, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Cough Cough @ Garchy: - Not me! :) Exemplo347 ( talk) 20:39, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Woops! Wrong user tag, sorry :-) Garchy ( talk) 20:40, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 00:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

List of inline hockey competitions

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Completely unsourced. Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 19:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to National Collegiate Roller Hockey Association. – Juliancolton |  Talk 00:36, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Completely unsourced. Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 19:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 21:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Completely unsourced. Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 19:16, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 21:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Completely unsourced. Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 19:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete as it fails WP:GNG. The only non-trivial coverage I could find came from nonindependent sources. In addition, I think that if there are other articles like this one, they should probably be deleted too, unless they have some other reason for notability. Icebob99 ( talk) 14:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 21:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Volleyball at the 2013 Games of the Small States of Europe – Women's team rosters

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A list of rosters predominately with red links. The notability is also questionable. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 18:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Also nominating the following for the same reason: reply

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@ Laurdecl: There shouldn't be as many roster articles out there. However, for the Olympics and the major continental sporting events its okay imo to have these articles. In this case this is not a major continental sporting event. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 03:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non notable porn actor, fails PORNBIO and GNG – Davey2010 Talk 18:43, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete (was No vote yet but leaning delete). We have another actor-won-an-award-but-sources-are-crap porn bio. While previous AfD debates for Grabby Award winners have resulted in keeps, there is absolutely zero reliably-sourced information in this article. Trivial mentions found in the porn trade press. 100% GNG and WP:BASIC fail. PORNBIO claim is tenuous. Deleting this without prejudice against creating an article for the Colorado State Rep. by the same name sounds reasonable to me. • Gene93k ( talk) 22:47, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was Keep. While there is a case for deleting this article under WP:BIODEL this applies to relatively unknown, non-public figures. What is a non-public figure (and why would Wikipedia have an article about them anyway?) Our guide is the essay at Wikipedia:Who is a low-profile individual which suggests several helpful criteria, all of which indicate that this is a high profile person. They have given interviews to major news outlets, sought publicity for their books, they hold a position of influence in research. They do not meet the general definition of a low-profile individual: A low-profile individual is someone who has been covered in reliable sources without seeking such attention, often as part of their connection with a single event. While I'm sympathetic to the right to disappear I think this person has put their head too far above the parapet to maintain that right. As to the claims of libel, the one-line reference to a controversy is reasonably sourced and the source (rather than Wikipedia) is probably the better target for any action. Kim Dent-Brown (Talk) 10:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC). reply

Henry Gee

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As the subject of this page I am nominating it for deletion on the grounds of lack of notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cromercrox ( talk • contribs) 18:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Weak delete The article is in a decent state and passes our usual standard of notability, but we could delete it under WP:BIODEL if nobody objects. –  Joe ( talk) 16:01, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Keep, reluctantly, per E.M.Gregory's comments. Given that multiple editors have argued to keep on the basis that Gee is a "public figure", and the article itself is well sourced and has a long history, I don't think we can apply WP:BIODEL here after all. However, I think this is a good example of why we could do to strengthen that guideline. The "right to be forgotten" (for low-profile individuals) that cromercrox mentions below is something we should be protecting per WP:BLP. –  Joe ( talk) 13:16, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep . I read too quickly and did not notice that it was the subject of the article who was requesting deletion. I am not certain whether to consider Gee a public figure or not, but am leaning slightly towards that which gives me the week keep. - Pengortm ( talk) 19:10, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
updated from weak keep to keep based on below discussion. - Pengortm ( talk) 03:48, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. at subject's request. Xxanthippe ( talk) 22:29, 12 January 2017 (UTC). reply
  • Keep as no one has actually stated there's explicit need and the nominator could be mistaken about our policies for notability (see WP:PROF#Criteria and he is in fact notable, a major book by a major publisher. So, unless there's specification, there is no "non-notability". SwisterTwister talk 05:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I think he passes WP:AUTHOR (but I note that there are currently 16 senior editors in biology alone for Nature and that it is editor-in-chief that normally passes WP:PROF #8). However, if we don't honor the subject's request to delete the entry, I hope that we could at least consider removing the image. It's a picture from a public place (a pub), but I hope that we could use our common sense to determine that this isn't a professional reflection on the subject. EricEnfermero ( Talk) 09:14, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • keep Oh, dear. In this privacy-deprived age my sympathies are entirely with Henry Gee. We used to have the right to lead private lives. The problem is that Gee doesn't lead such a life, at least not professionally. He has published widely reviewed books. Holding the job of senior Editor of Nature (journal) is notable by definition, even though the post has been a lightening rod for controversy since Darwin v. Huxley. Unfortunately, because he is a senior editor he has been at the center of controversy, unpleasant controversy not related to misbehavior on his part, but simply because of the status he holds. I wish that we could in good conscious comply with his request, or that by taking him off Wikipedia we could give him back his privacy. It's a pity, but there it is. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 18:19, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete per WP:BIODEL. Notability is a condition for an article, not a requirement for one. Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:27, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
What policy is that? Xxanthippe ( talk) 22:57, 14 January 2017 (UTC). reply
The policy cited: WP:BIODEL, which applies only to "relatively unknown, non-public figures," a description that does not fit Henry Gee, who is a well-known. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 00:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • I have started an expand/source on the distinguished career of this scientist and author of both scholarly and popular books. The difficulty is not only the plethora of sources, but the complexity of a career with such a wide range of interests. In the early years of this century, for example, I have just discovered the marvelously erudite and wide ranging essays he used ot write for The Guardian. then there are the books, not only the scholarly books, but the Stephen Jay Gould-style explications of science fo r a popular audience. Not to mention his remarkable work on Tolkien. The controversies turn out to be so minor compared with the distinction of the career. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 20:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment I haven't decided yet which way to go on this one, but I checked both the history of the article and of Mr. Gee, posting as Cromercrox , and as an I.P. address, and noticed that it was Gee himself who created the article, then attempted to remove information on the Isis controversy when it was posted. Maybe delete based on conflict of interest would also apply here. ABF99 ( talk) 02:50, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply
    • As noted below, the article was created by Athaenara, not Gee, and he appears to have only edited it occasionally to make minor corrections and remove BLP-violating material, which is more or less in line with WP:COISELF. Besides, COI editing isn't usually considered a reason to delete an article. –  Joe ( talk) 13:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment This is me, Henry Gee. To correct a misperception, I did not create the entry on myself. I was very surprised to see it, and wish it had never appeared, as its only function appears to be as a magnet for trolls. Unable to persuade Wikipedia to remove it, I have at times encouraged friends to post silly things on it. I do not believe I am notable enough for a wikipedia entry, and apart from that I'd rather like Wikipedia to adopt the 'right to be forgotten', if requested, adopted by some internet sources, I believe. cromercrox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.243.114 ( talk) 09:54, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. My mistake and my apologies to Mr. Gee. The subject seems to be on the borderline of notability. He has indeed written and published a lot, but I'm not finding enough written about him to require a biography here. ABF99 ( talk) 15:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep unfortunately for the nominator, he is notable enough for an article. Not sure how the "right to be forgotten" could be handled on Wikipedia. Perhaps this could be brought to the attention of WMF for discussion? I'll see if I can figure out the appropriate way to handle this —  Iadmc ♫ talk  07:07, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment This is me, Henry Gee, again. If an article is visible in Britain, it is subject to the laws of the United Kingdom, including libel, irrespective of its source and the location of its servers. And while the United Kingdom is still in the European Union, then EU law presumably applies too. Meanwhile I thank the assembled Wikipedians for taking this problem seriously. cromercrox — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.243.114 ( talk) 09:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was keep. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Pedrolia Martin Sikayun

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Fails notability. Questionable tier 1 apperance in international soccer match and none of these athletes compete(d) in a professional league as determined by WP:Football Note all these articles are created by SVG. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 18:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 18:15, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Also nominating: reply

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'The notability of these is accepted as they would have received significant coverage as outlined above in the general notability criteria." - Please demonstrate how each of these articles have received significant coverage. All of these fail part 2 of notability set by WP:Football and thuse should be deleted. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 20:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Many (if not all) meet part 1, so part 2 is not relevant. Part 1 explicitly says 'Players who have played in, and managers who have managed in any Tier 1 International Match ... are notable'. You are violating a long-standing consensus. Nfitz ( talk) 20:15, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
One would hope that everyone editing in this topic area, is aware of what the FIFA Tier 1 definition is. It's simply 'any International Match in which both of the teams participating are the “A” Representative Teams of the Members concerned, or an International Match involving a Scratch Team.'. That the matches are tier 1, can be confirmed on FIFA's website. If you check out Timor [21], and click on Women's, you quickly see that that the most recent match was the match against Malaysia, which I provided the summary above; FIFA doesn't list Tier 2 matches here (which is why the match in the same tournament against the Australia women's national under-20 soccer team on July 29th isn't shown). Nfitz ( talk) 22:36, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Indeed, and that's why I don't in this area, for that very reason. But you've made it clear enough to me as a layman that these international country vs country women's matches are tier 1. I may not know soccer football, but I know how to read policy and these women players do seem to meet WP:NFOOTBALL's 1st criterion. Keep. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 00:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

2014–15 NCRHA Division I season

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Completely unsourced. Trivial and non-notable. Fails WP:GNG. Also see WP:SPORTCRIT. Full of redlinks. Created as part of a large swath of pages by a single user who has since left. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 18:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedily deleted under CSD G4. Non-admin closure. Safiel ( talk) 18:43, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The subject does not appear to satisfy WP:NCORP. Tagged for notability since 2015. Safiel ( talk) 17:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 21:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Urchin SCM

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This free software project is non-notable: it hasn't received any notice from or coverage in reliable sources, so it's impossible to write an encyclopedic article about it. Prod was declined by the article's creator, likely also the author of the software. Υπογράφω ( talk) 16:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Please explain what is meant by "Prod was declined by the article's creator". I have actively monitored the article and edited it to address all of the issues raised including a disclosure of my interest in this subject. Martin Halliday 17:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: This means that somebody tagged the article for deletion using the "PROD" procedure and that you removed this tag. Once a PROD tag has been removed (and everybody can remove such a tag, including the article creator) it cannot be reinstated. As you did not include a single reference with your article, Υπογράφω apparently decided to open a deletion discussion. -- Randykitty ( talk) 19:11, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • I added three more references. You can see from the NuGet stats that about 850 people have downloaded the Urchin Client software. I am

not sure how big this number needs to be before this is considered notable enough to be included on WP. From the great feedback I received, I know that lots of people are enjoying the benefits of using this software and I expect this popularity to continue. Martin Halliday 19:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Oh, you can say it. Pecuniary motives are not the only reason that people try to advertise something. We have people pushing anything from fringe science to religion to political views to their favorite garage band, so why not a free software package that they have created... I originally looked at it to see whether speedy deletion as spam (G11) applied, but I don't think it's really very promotional enough for that. -- Randykitty ( talk) 08:38, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:21, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Albania at the 2010 FINA World Swimming Championships (25 m)

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Nations at the xxx pages are usually reserved for events with multiple sports or disciplines. This one focuses on just one sport. Also quoting Peter Rehse, from another similar AFD [22], "they are all a rehash of a single source. National results for events that are borderline notable themselves. Even there there is nothing demonstrating that [the country] performed anywhere near notable." Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 16:09, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Also nominating these for the same reasons: reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:21, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable sporting event to have nation pages. Also unreferenced. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 16:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC) Also adding this article for the same reasons (it is referenced by one source however): reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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fails WP:GNG. all I could find coverage for is the same name park in Broken Hill, Fresno and Ireland. Oppose redirect also for same reason. Parks are not inherently notable, nor do I see it being notable for hosting an amateur team. LibStar ( talk) 14:56, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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what is the point of creating a list of non notable parks in a municipality? LibStar ( talk) 15:11, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
and a redirect is inappropriate, as there is at least 4 parks of the same name. LibStar ( talk) 15:12, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Discussion is a good thing. So I would then go for a DAB page with a link to an expanded parks and reserves section in Bankstown City#Parks. 11:58, 13 January 2017 (UTC) For example:
Sample DAB page content
O'Neill Park may refer to:
City of Bankstown actually no longer exists. LibStar ( talk) 12:13, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
and you will note Bankstown City isn't even the correct name. It was City of Bankstown referring to the municipality of Bankstown having city status. And creating all this pathway for a non notable park that is actually in Yagoona. LibStar ( talk) 12:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
The name is not important here - it was just a sample suggestion. Cheers Aoziwe ( talk) 12:26, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Yes it is as you're confusing a municipality with a city. And secondly wanting to redirect a park article to an entity that no longer exists. That is extremely confusing . LibStar ( talk) 12:28, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Fixed. Aoziwe ( talk) 12:20, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
if you are supporting DAB page the current page and its history must be first deleted. LibStar ( talk) 15:57, 15 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Luan Muça

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Fails WP:ANYBIO. I was only able to find any sources that discuss the subject in any detail. - Mr X 14:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. The quality of the sources used to prove notability has come into question, but consensus is strongly in favor of keeping the article. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:19, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable artist; fails WP:GNG, WP:BIO. Some conflict of interest concerns. Mikeblas ( talk) 13:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep as well-known genre artist. I fixed the one Nerd Trek citation, and here's what else I'm finding. Tier 1: [23] [24] Tier 2: [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30]. Jclemens ( talk) 10:08, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep per Jclemens, and there is one other RS in the article already, the Chattanooga Times as previously provided by Paul Erik. BOZ ( talk) 12:18, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: The article needs to be expanded and improved - not deleted. Diesel is well known as a cartographer who gave various different D&D campaign setting maps a distinctive style, as if they were created by fictional people within that setting. I'll see if I can find some people who can point me at interviews, so that I can add some citations. Big Mac ( talk) 13:25, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - I have no opinion at the moment on the notability of the topic, but I just want to point out that not a single one of those sources brought up by Jclemens can be considered a reliable source. We have, in order, a random guy's personal blog, a "guest announcement" for a very minor con, a random listing of his name and birthdate, a Facebook post, another page that lists nothing but the barest minimum of his personal information, his Tumblr page, an official D&D page that mentions him exactly one time and says nothing except "this is a picture he drew", and a random group of trivia questions in which his name happens to appear once. Whether or not this guy is decided to be notable, these sources should not be used to establish it, and should certainly not be added to the article in any way. 64.183.45.226 ( talk) 17:08, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Look, if you want to actually engage in conversation, register. But, to humor you, this is actually a pretty good indicator of pre-Internet notability for a game artist. The facebook post is about him, not by him, and made by the premier convention targeted at gamers who played during the era his art was published. None of this is "challenged or likely to be challenged" so publication in the New York Times or other higher circulation media is not required. And since he already has two independent, reliable sources, none of these actually have to be reliable for the GNG to be met with respect to this artist. Jclemens ( talk) 19:13, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Saying you are humoring an IP doesn't make their point any less valid, and shouldn't be used to imply they are not engaging in conversation. The underlying point is correct: None of those are reliable. Nobody is denying that he exists, and is an artist, so links like MyHeritage are totally pointless. BLPs need reliable, independent sources, and notability needs substantial, independent sources. Not primary source, not social media. If they are not usable in the article, they are not usable to prove notability, and introducing them here is a distraction. Grayfell ( talk) 10:37, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: Multiple independent sources in the article before considering the validity of anything that Jclemens proffered suggests that is does, in fact, meet WP:GNG - Sangrolu ( talk) 04:39, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Weak delete - I don't see any reliable independent sources. Independent sources are needed for articles, especially BLPs. I don't know if Nerd Talk is reliable, but regardless, interviews are not independent. A list of works is not substantial enough. I don't have access to the Chattanooga Times Free Press article, but if all it does is support that he worked on early D&D stuff, that's pretty weak. None of the sources presented by Jclemens are usable. Grayfell ( talk) 10:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Thinking about it for a while, I think his body of work implies WP:ARTIST, but independent sources are still lacking. He isn't credited as the primary author/artist for these modules, and being one of an ensemble means that sources need to be held to a higher standard. Grayfell ( talk) 22:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep: I have tried to expand the article and provide more depth, give some indication of the wide variety of "old school" TSR publications he helped to create, and broaden the wiki's base of sources, as well as provide a variety of 3rd party reviewers commenting on his artwork and his importance. I hope this addresses the question of notability, and hope that further work by editors will strengthen this article even more. Guinness323 ( talk) 09:33, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Many of those sources were passing mentions or totally unusable blogs. We shouldn't use self-published sources for a BLP, and they do nothing to establish notability. Grayfell ( talk) 21:09, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
While some of the 3rd-party commentary you eliminated was from blogs, you have also excised third-party reviewers writing for various industry publications that spoke directly to the quality of his artwork: Jim Bambra, White Dwarf; Elisabeth Barrington, Space Gamer; Keith Baker, Dungeon magazine. These are good secondary sources, I am not sure what the rationale for elimination has been. Even so, I believe notability as TSR's staff cartographer has been established. Guinness323 ( talk) 21:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Dungeon Magazine is not independent. This ranking was just as much the company promoting its own products to foster customer engagement as it was commentary on the adventures themselves. The Space Gamer review was of one module, and described his work as "on par with other art from TSR". That seems pretty thin, to me, and it points to a deeper problem. The article for Space Gamer has no reliable independent sources, so we're providing the reader with no way to assess how significant or reliable this mention in a review is. Exactly the same as with White Dwarf (magazine), although the mention is more substantial. Most of these gaming article present knowledge that the subjects are important, but we cannot take that on faith. This enthusiasm gamers have for sharing lore is commendable, but when its handled like this it's alienating to people who aren't already involved in the culture, and frustrating to people who want a straightforward overview of a topic, which is the whole point of Wikipedia. Grayfell ( talk) 22:22, 16 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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This article has been unsourced for over 10 years, and is not independently notable to begin with. There is nothing to even merge with the Nobuo Uematsu article, so this one should just be redirected there instead. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 12:55, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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To the extent this can be sourced at all, it fails WP:SYNTH. Deprodded. Siuenti ( talk) 12:13, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Vaibhav Saxena

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Potential WP:GNG issues and this article was previously deleted for reasons relating to that and WP:PROMO. The creator is/was a WP:SPA and I've already removed two citations that had the same quirky newspaper headline but were allegedly published years apart - neither exist in the newspapers' archives.

The MTV bio source is very odd and note that the publisher, Viacom, says "This site contains content from artists, fans, and writers from around the internet in it's natural form". Another citation - for "Radio Mantra Supersinger Contest 2016". Inext (in Hindi). Gorakhpur. 11 June 2009.") is plain illogical - a 2016 contest reported in 2009.

I am concerned about the validity of all of the citations, most of which apparently existed in 2009 and the remainder of which seem not to be in English or online, other than one on YouTube. That they are neither is not a bar but given the past history of this article I am concerned about its recreation. Sitush ( talk) 10:09, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete or stubify, essentially due to its promotional nature. There are a couple of sources which would a priori be reliable, except for the issue raised by Sitush; the other sources I'm less certain of. More importantly, the majority of the article is not sourced, and is full of puffery. I also wish the image was not one that resembled a facebook profile picture. Vanamonde ( talk) 12:18, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. These sources just don't cut the mustard, and while Google turns up quite a lot of alternatives, none of them are any better. Admittedly it's hard to weed through the self-published and promo material sources, so there may be something there worthy of the name "reliable source", but I haven't found it. Yunshui  雲 水 13:37, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete and redirect to Vestergaard. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Mikkel Vestergaard Frandsen

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This article currently intermixes the person and the company she owns. I can suggest WP:TNT instead of a full delete in the best case. Devopam ( talk) 09:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:14, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Dorothy King

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Two reasons for nominating for deletion.

Firstly, King is surely not notable enough to warrant a wikipedia biography. Her written work is neither significant nor prolific - there are countless academics and indeed students, who have published more opinion pieces/blog articles etc., most of whom also don't warrant a wiki biography. Additionally, she appears to have stopped publishing - her blog is inactive, her twitter is private and she hasn't published academic work or opinion-pieces for some years. She doesn't appear to be working as an archaeologist (or in a relevant/linked field).

Secondly, what there is of her biography reads more like a fluffed up promotional piece. There is absolutely no actual information on her career such as where and when she did her PhD, where she has been employed, what sites she has excavated or worked on - or indeed anything (again) to justify her biography. There is also no relevant or interesting personal information - nothing on childhood, significant relationships, family, achievements - in short, once again, no detail that would support her being significant enough for a wiki bio. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.172.153.147 ( talk) 01:43, 11 January 2017 (UTC) — [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

I completed this AfD for an anonymous editor, the above nomination statement is copied from the article's talk page. –  Joe  ( talk) 09:53, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Delete. Although the previous AfD in 2009 was a snow keep, the subject hasn't attracted sustained coverage since. Her book on the Elgin Marbles appears to have prompted a flurry of media appearances, but she hasn't remained in the public eye (with a couple of exceptions: [31] [32]). Some of the sources alluded to in the last AfD also seem to have disappeared, so I think addressing the content problems raised by the nominator would be difficult. As far as I can tell she doesn't have an academic career so WP:PROF is moot. –  Joe ( talk) 10:28, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Delete/ Userfy Subject fails WP:AUTHOR, WP:PROF, and WP:ANYBIO. For anyone that claims the coverage of her passes GNG, I counter that this reportage is about the Elgin Marbles so she would be disqualified under WP:BLP1E. When you take away the stuff she's written there's nothing left to hang notability on. I'd be happy for the closing admin to put this in my userspace as I have a soft spot for historian biographies. Chris Troutman ( talk) 19:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep as per WP:HEYMANN. I have added a number of sources to the article, which needs improvement. However, coverage is hardly limited to a "flurry" at the time her book was published in 2006. I added a long The Daily Telegraph profile article from 2003. And several reviews of her book in major media. As many of the sources say, she is unusual and controversial. But undeniably notable as can be easily established from the sources now on the page or by searching her name along with keywords like "elgin marbles" and "archaeology". E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:07, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Thanks for adding sources, but don't you think you're slightly overselling them? The only NYT article cited is a page long and mentions King once. As far as I can tell, with the exception of the odd quote and the 2003 Telegraph article, all the sources are still about her book on the Elgin marbles. Perhaps we ought to have an article on the book, but King herself does not meet WP:SUSTAINED. –  Joe ( talk) 23:16, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Are we looking at the same article? This: [33] one, in the Science section? I suppose "long," is relative, but it's a pretty detailed article. And, at 1,000 words, pretty long. Certainly a WP:RS supporting notability. Moreover, I do not pretend to have sought, found, or sourced the article with every significant article about her. In my experience, when a quick search turns up this much material, there is almost certainly more out there. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 23:34, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • That quote, for editors without Times access "But Dr. Dorothy King, who recently earned her doctorate in archaeology from the University of Oxford and is a leader of the opposition, emphasized the intangibles of the issue. 'The importance of the site is as much in its symbolism -- it would be the equivalent of putting a theme park in the middle of the site of the Battle of Gettysburg.'" E.M.Gregory ( talk) 23:50, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • As predicted, a quick search on Proquest news archives (which never finds everything that is out there; no single search engine does) on "Dorothy King" + Marathon + Olympics turned up not only the NYTimes and The Daily Telegraph articles already added to the page, but also:
  • Miss Indiana Jones digs up a whole new take on history. The Observer [London (UK)] 16 Nov 2003
  • Marathon game of Marbles , Daily Mail [London (UK)] 30 Apr 2003: 17.
  • Marathon protest Londoner's diary: Evening Standard [London (UK)] 20 Mar 2001: 12.
  • These 5 articles were picked up in British papers and in newspapers across the world. I'm sure there were more, not to mention articles about her/this in German, Greek and other languages. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 23:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • The NYT piece has one sentence: "But Dr. Dorothy King, who recently earned her doctorate in archaeology from the University of Oxford and is a leader of the opposition, emphasized the intangibles of the issue.". Everything else added (except maybe for the Observer piece I can't access) is about Elgin marbles. Chris Troutman ( talk) 00:22, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Rules violation'? Looking back at the previous AFD, (many iVotes, SNOW KEEP,) I am wondering about the propriety of a deletion discussion about a conspicuously controversial figure started by an IP who is a SPA with a total of 2 edits, the tag on the page itself and the edit at this discussion. I suggest that we close this immediately as a procedural keep. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 22:35, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Yes, I do think that it is problematic for an SPA to be allowed to nominate a long-standing article for deletion, especially when the subject is highly controversial, and when the reasons for deletion are that the Subject hasn't published recently, that other writers are better known, that the article does not contain enough information about her childhood, and that it does not say where she earned her PhD. btw, I dsourced her Oxford PhD to the NYTimes and added it to the article. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 23:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Abusing the word problematic should result in you going to bed without supper. Adding sources and making a claim for GNG and HEYMANN is fine. Suggesting that your opinion should cause the discussion to end is laughable. I don't know how you think you can edit here with that attitude. Chris Troutman ( talk) 00:05, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply

::::::*Very gracious of you, I'm sure. It is fine for you too clean up the article, insert better sources, and reword as per sources. Heaven knows the article has been need of a good. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 00:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC) I apologize for that snark. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 01:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Note Also this: [34] BBC interview, published in anticipation of the publication of the 2006 book on the Elgin marbles. A WP:RS that supports notability. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 00:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Biographical details now added to article, sourced to Smith, David (16 November 2003). "Miss Indiana Jones digs up a whole new take on history". The Observer and Jardine, Cassandra (12 April 2003). "My battle of Marathon". The Daily Telegraph. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 01:42, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
    • Oh lord some of these articles are bad. "One of the last bastions of male dominance"? Archaeology is one of the most equal disciplines in British academia! "I get called the female Indiana Jones"? Please, who doesn't? It's seriously worrying how many of these profiles seem to just be parroting King's own self-promotionalism. Were the documentaries mentioned ever produced? She has evidently not become archaeology's Nigella Lawson or Simon Schama, has only written one book (ten years ago), and as far as I can tell hasn't otherwise worked in archaeology since; so in retrospect can we really consider these puff "profiles" reliable? –  Joe ( talk) 09:34, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Her book however The Elgin Marbles (book), was widely reviewed across the Anglosphere, excoriated in the Greek press, and can certainly support a stand-alone article. We cannot, however, merge to the book because there are profiles of her and long interviews with her in major newspapers, at least one of which, Smith, David (16 November 2003). "Miss Indiana Jones digs up a whole new take on history". The Observer, dates years before the book was announced and is about a controversy involving the archaeological site of the Battle of Marathon. The Elgin Marbles book (several reviews already in the article, does support notability. Certainly the articles that you WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT support notability. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 13:33, 12 January 2017 (UTC) I have now BLUELINKED her book, The Elgin Marbles. E.M.Gregory ( talk) 14:26, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:12, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:N – Article about youtuber whose only claim to notability is "150,000 subscribers" (which is certainly not notable). Has not played in any league except against other youtube teams. 80% of the sources link to youtube or Facebook. The only good source is a BBC article which mentions this "team" vaguely in passing. Laurdecl talk 09:01, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Keep Is an actual semi pro team that has reached the top division for amateurs as mentioned in the article (Thurrock Association Sunday League Division One) and can now apply for the proper F.A pyramid, yes they are known for filming their matches, but I don't understand how the nom says that they only play youtube teams, they have only played 1 to my knowledge, Hashtag United F.C. as mentioned in the article. They just fail WP:NFOOTY but are probably the best known 'Sunday League' team in the country, so pass WP:GNG per these sources [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] Thanks, AlessandroTiandelli333 ( talk) 17:20, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
    • As you said, amateur teams are not notable per WP:NFOOTY and the youtube subscribers claim does not confer notability. The entire History section is about amateur leagues and """references""" used there are youtube links. If this team was notable then the record of their games would be in independent sources, not on youtube videos they have uploaded themselves. Laurdecl talk 07:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep Understandably, the notability rules on English football teams require that a team has at least at some point played in top ten divisions of the pyramid or in the FA Cup. However, despite Palmers FC not having done so they are by far a much more well renowned team than many at the lower reaches of the English football league system, despite being a Sunday league outfit. 150,000 subscribers on Smiv's Youtube channel is surely notable enough to justify a page for the club alone, with these thousands regularly following the side's results and matches. If they cannot be classed as notable enough based on footballing terms they should at least be considered notable enough under overall Wikipedia requirements for notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.246.123.211 ( talk) 15:00, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Comment – this article was originally declined at AfC, see User:Swizler73/sandbox Laurdecl talk 07:07, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Comment I would like to point out the BBC source is more substantual than claimed, just going to give it here;
BBC Source

Hashtag are not the only side to have built a YouTube following. Others such as Sidemen and Palmers FC also exist in the online world having arrived there via varying routes.

While Hashtag provide a well-polished production, for Palmers the football came first and the YouTube videos followed.

The Thurrock-based friends played together as youngsters and decided to reform as a Sunday league team three years ago. In Matt Smith, or Smiv, they already had a YouTuber in their ranks.

"It was all about having a bit of a reunion every Sunday," explained Smith. "We don't see each other much now as we've all got jobs and commitments, so that's pretty much our time together as mates.

"The first season we didn't film, but the next season I kicked off the YouTube channel because, with the amount of stuff that happened in that original season, I wished we had got it on camera.

"In our first game filming we scored from a corner, so I thought 'we've got a good series going on here'. It wasn't until about half a year in when people started cottoning on to it and sharing it. There was a big fight on the pitch and it went viral. Ever since then it's gained traction."

Smith, a video producer by trade, turned his YouTube channel into a full-time job last year and Palmers' games - recorded from the halfway line on one of his old cameras - rack up hundreds of thousands of hits.

"It's nitty gritty, it's wet and muddy - we don't really care about the look of it, it's capturing as much as possible, really," he added. "I think that's why it works, because it's so simple.

"Sometimes the view's not great, sometimes people get in the way, you miss a goal or the battery runs out. There's no script to it either, we plonk the camera down and whatever happens, happens."
Here is a link to it so I don't get sued [42] AlessandroTiandelli333 ( talk) 17:45, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was no consensus. ( No prejudice against speedy renomination per low participation herein.) North America 1000 14:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Netherlands at the 2013 UEC European Track Championships

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Nations at the xxx pages are usually reserved for events with multiple sports or disciplines. This one focuses on just one sport. Also quoting Peter Rehse, from another similar AFD [43], "they are all a rehash of a single source. National results for events that are borderline notable themselves. Even there there is nothing demonstrating that [the country] performed anywhere near notable." Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 02:35, 27 December 2016 (UTC) Also nominating the following for the same reason: reply

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Comment - Whilst I can appreciate the above may not be notable individually, I was wondering if rather than have Great Britain at the 2008 UEC European Track Championships - whether an amalgamation to Great Britain at the UEC European Track Championships would be a better proposal? Note, I have also posted at WT:CYC with a request for further editors comments. XyZAn ( talk) 15:11, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:32, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:GNG. Definitely a name but cannot even redirect to the Kachwaha article as there appear to be no reliable sources that make the connection. Unsourced for years.

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:32, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Amal Unnithan

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Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial support. References are passing mentions, nothing in-depth. reddogsix ( talk) 15:38, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. – Juliancolton |  Talk 17:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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No sources or any indication of notability. Deprodded by the page creator without any explanation. Zackmann08 ( Talk to me/ What I been doing) 19:13, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was Procedural closure. Speedily deleted by Boing! said Zebedee as WP:G10 and now at deletion review.  Sandstein  11:57, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Not very notable conspiracy theory. We do not need articles on every 2 bit conspiracy theory that comes along ©Geni ( talk) 06:30, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton |  Talk 21:22, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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No evidence of movie having been released or for that matter even filmed. Fails WP:FILM. Jupitus Smart 05:12, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was speedy delete. ( non-admin closure) Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:17, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Not notable. Does not meet WP:NCORP. Refs are all primary or directory-type listings. Could not find better sourcing. Although it appears to have been around for a long time, it is just not notable. MB 04:41, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Proposed deletion removed without comment. My concerns are are this is a Non-notable website with no significant, third-party coverage of the subject itself. This "journal" appears to be no more than a blog ( http://asianamlitfans.livejournal.com/) and annotated reading list ( http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/657-asian-american-literature-fans). Trivial mentions in books and websites appear to be excerpts from user-generated reviews, not reliable sources. Even if notable academics contribute reviews, notability is not inherited. --Animalparty! ( talk) 00:36, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete Of the many references in the article, a small minority (2 of 15) are actually about the e-journal. Of those two, one is to the journal's homepage at SUNY Binghamton and the other is to LibraryThing, a booklover's wiki. The remaining sources are all about academics that have apparently contributed reviews of other works to the e-journal. Wider searches finds numbers of social media and blog sites, and a few reviews cribbed from AALF on bookseller's sites. No indication that it satisfies any of the notability criteria for academic journals, especially since the only real coverage in Google Scholar is reviews of works by the founder that mention this e-journal in passing. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:07, 10 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. ( soft) King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:30, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-noteworthy album of the band's career with no substantial sources. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 03:00, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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There was an article on this subject a while ago under the title "Judy Travis" but I nominated it for deletion because I did not think there was enough notability. I think the same can be said here. I think this article is a bit too promotional (see the Philanthropy section) and some of the sources are not reliable (#1, #5, #7, #16, #18, #22) and some of the sources such as #6 and #8 are just articles about a specific "viral" video. I'm just not seeing enough to warrant having an article on this person. I'm not seeing what the significance is, and I know this technically could be said about all YouTubers with Wikipedia articles, but I just think there isn't enough here. Andise1 ( talk) 02:19, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Salvio Let's talk about it! 15:46, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Dan Bilzerian (song)

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Fails WP:NSONG. Redirect reverted without comment. SummerPhD v2.0 02:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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  • Delete The really should be a redirect to the parent album, but that has been delayed for at least three years now. In the meantime, two paragraphs on Pitchfork and three on Complex are about all that's available in WP:RS, and even those are really little more than "here's a new song" with links to YouTube and SoundCloud. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:48, 17 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable media project, now defunct Bistropha ( talk) 04:02, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply

"Ahora" was a Spanish-language public radio network in the US, a joint project of NPR and Radio Netherlands Worldwide. It was active in 2007 and 2008, but I have not found information on when it began and ended. It probably ended in or before 2012, when RNW ceased radio broadcasting activity. Searching on the net finds few mentions of Ahora: only on the web sites of stations that carried it. Bistropha ( talk) 04:13, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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The result was redirect to Twenty One Pilots discography. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:29, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Non-notable recording. Primary sources and brief mentions. Walter Görlitz ( talk) 05:31, 27 December 2016 (UTC) reply

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The result was delete. Naked All the Time has been A9'd, and Sports (2012 band) moved to the current title. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:17, 14 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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I did some Googling and could not find many sources on this band, which is probably the reason as to why the article is under-referenced. There is another band with the same name with more coverage and notability that I plan to create an article on, and I think would better suit this article space than the Oklahoma band with not much reliable source coverage. Andise1 ( talk) 01:21, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

  • Delete Newly created band consisting of apparently non-notable individual members. And...I'm sorry but this is a clear WP:IAR situation where the effective burden of proof rests largely on the article creator. No one is going to look through scores or hundreds of articles to try to assess whether a band named Shoe or And is notable. TimothyJosephWood 15:31, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • @ Andise1:, if the more notable band you're talking about is a Canadian one, then you should be aware that this article actually was about that band from 2009 until 2015, at which point it was hijacked and overwritten to be about the Oklahoma band instead of the original topic — followed by a revert back to the Canadian band again, and then by a second rehijacking in summer 2016. (If anybody's wondering, I learned all this by investigating why a band from Oklahoma was flagged on its talk page as belonging to WikiProject Canada.) So if that's the band you mean, then we can restore the pre-hijacking version rather than you actually having to start over from scratch (and if the one you actually have in mind is an Austrlian band of the 1970s instead, then they already have an article at The Sports too.) That said, the old article wasn't great, and would also be potentially deletable under current WP:NMUSIC standards if not significantly improved. Accordingly, my vote is to revert back to the Canadian band, albeit without prejudice against also renominating it for AFD in the future if the sources don't pan out update: see my reply to Andise1 below — even if the American band can be properly sourced over NMUSIC, they would have to be given a disambiguated title and would not be entitled to just overwrite an existing article about a different topic. Bearcat ( talk) 18:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Mine is about a Philadelphia band. I am creating the article now and will link it here when I am finished. I didn't think about the disambiguated title before but that sounds like the best idea here. Andise1 ( talk) 18:36, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Ah, okay. I'm switching to a straight delete on this one, then, because if your sources aren't about the Canadian band and I can't find any solid ones about them either, then what's left in the original pre-hijack article isn't good enough to restore them without improvement. Bearcat ( talk) 19:44, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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No encyclopedic knowledge. Fails WP:ORGCRITE and subsequently WP:ORG. scope_creep ( talk) 01:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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The result was keep. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Charlotte Devaney

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Create-protected page which was declined nine times as a draft was moved out of process by the main contributor to a disambiguation page, which was then moved by an unknowing editor to its current location.

The issues of the previous AFD, as well as the AFC comments, have not been addressed, namely that there is a lack of significant coverage of the individual in independent reliable sources. Primefac ( talk) 17:33, 3 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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I did not make a determination as to whether the subject passes WP:NMUSIC or not. I agree a number of sources in the article are not that great, but a search of Google and High Beam produce a number of independant, reliable sources concerning the subject to pass WP:GNG. Additionally, The Australian Recording Industry Association certified that her recording "Flip It" achieved Platinum status in 2016 which would indicate subject passes WP:NMUSIC as well. [44] CBS527 Talk 19:24, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep easily per WP:NMUSIC, various categories. I don't know what is the play here. The subject is required to qualify on only one criteria of NMUSIC, but qualifies on various, as listed:
  1. NMUSIC#2: "Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart." – Devaney charted in the official ARIA charts and topped at #12. [45] [46] This is of course apart from cracking the top 10 on iTunes Australian charts. [47]
  2. NMUSIC#3: "Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country." – Devaney's record was certified Gold after multiple weeks on the charts. [48]
  3. NMUSIC#12: "Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network." – BBC, ABC... there are just too many such national networks playing her on rotation; you can expect that of chart toppers.
Like I said, all NMUSIC requires is for the subject to qualify on one criterion to be kept. Here, the subject qualifies on multiple criteria. This is an investment of time of editors on a deletion discussion that should not have been done. Lourdes 04:39, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
  • Keep The subject meets WP:BLPCRIME as their charges have been documented by BBC News and The Independent; combine with the minor WP:NMUSIC accomplishments, it means they meet our guidelines for an article. Let's hope whoever tried passing it through AfC doesn't have a conflict of interest, as they'll have now got their client documented as a kidnapper all over the internet. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:55, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
I have to say that "well known" is marginal; certainly the sources describe her as a "DJ and producer", which isn't particularly special. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
Ok Ritchie333. I've seen BLPCRIME applied as an exclusion criterion and not inclusion (for example, Chaz has not been convicted, therefore, per BLPCRIME, if she weren't well known, we should remove the accusations from her BLP). That's why mentioned it. No worries either way. Lourdes 17:14, 12 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was redirect to I.O.I. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:25, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Choi Yoo-jung (singer)

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Subject of article is member of I.O.I. Subject has no notability outside of membership to I.O.I. Subject has no music career on her own. The sources for this article fail Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources.  {MordeKyle}   ☢ 02:59, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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Comment I looked at some of her google news hits in Korean but I didn't find any substantial coverage. Her Korean article doesn't seem to have any good sources either. Siuenti ( talk) 12:49, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

Hugo Oliveira

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The subject is a (football) goalkeeper coach, thus failing WP:NFOOTBALL. Article may fail WP:GNG. SLBedit ( talk) 02:33, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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I believe it is in compliance with WP:NFOOTBALL. Although he is a football goalkeeper coach, he managed in a fully professional league (in these case, two different leagues). Ricardo Sousa ( talk) 14:03, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

He's not a team manager/head coach. He just trains goalkeepers. There are few sources about him. SLBedit ( talk) 23:16, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply
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The result was merge to Direct Factory Outlets. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:23, 18 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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fails WP:ORG. gnews reveals limited and routine coverage. shopping centres are not inherently notable. LibStar ( talk) 00:31, 11 January 2017 (UTC) reply

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