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after removing all the self-serving, dead, blog and PROMO references and their unsupported claims, what's left is completely lacking in notability
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I'm in the process of doing changes in the answers, and also the references. The idea behind creating a different format for article was that it address common questions i.e. it serves as a one stop solution for all the common questions.
User:Imzadi1979 can you please cite individual points where you think I have done some mistake. Can you give us some time(4-5 days) for improving the article.
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23:47, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - This type of article is not appropriate for Wikipedia, at best it could be merged into the article on
Hinduism but that will require effort, the following choice quote should explain the issue with a merger "the science of Krishna consciousness". Per nomination,
WP:NOTFAQ, the prose is also very
WP:ESSAY like.
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Does not pass
WP:PROF or
WP:N guidelines. The subject is an adjunct professor with no notable achievements inside or outside of academics. The assertion of significance through the video tutorials appears moot as the tutorials are self published.
ERK talk21:31, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Hey, I think WP:Prof should be okay. The idea was to help with the
WikiProject Universities effort, and in fact, we would like to list multiple professors like other universities do.
The education hardware professor Muilenburg developed is being used at both OSU and PSU, and the material he teaches at PSU is unique and highly valued. Also, he has tens of thousands of hits on youtube for the video tutorials. I added a few more references that were not self published.
Muilenta (
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23:12, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Thanks again for the useful feedback as I'm new to posting.
Weak Keep. According to his faculty page,
[1] he's an adjunct professor not professor. There's a difference. But more important, that shows that he's he;s a senior engineer at Intel. That's his main career; his work at PSU is, as the title says, an adjunct to that. (even if the inexperienced editor didn;t realize it or mention it in the article). It's very difficult to judge such careers, and I'd be inclined to give the article the benefit of the doubt , because we do recognize contributions to educational programs as part of WP:PROF. DGG (
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05:21, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment It appears the article's creator is the subject or closely related. Another editor pointed out the
WP:COI on the creator's talk page. While his main career is as a senior engineer at Intel, I don't believe that's enough to satisfy criteria #7 of
WP:PROF, as there's nothing to suggest his position at Intel carries any notability. I can't find anything that comes close to satisfying any of the other criteria. --
ERK talk05:57, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
I have cleaned up the article quite a bit. I looked at pages of some other professors, and modeled after those. Thanks again for the constructive feedback
Muilenta (
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21:07, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. No evidence of passing
WP:PROF (in particular, no significant citations found on Google scholar, for work in a high-citation subject) and the article's sources do not provide evidence for passing
WP:GNG. Only references 6-8 (Oregonian, Nanoelectronics, and Rhizome) look both reliable and sufficiently independent of the subject, and none of those provides the in-depth coverage requested by GNG. —
David Eppstein (
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20:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Does not meet
WP:ACADEMIC. Appears to have no publications (nothing shows on G-scholar), nor does he seem to have furthered an area of research. Being a senior engineer at Intel isn't one of the criteria - it's a job title that probably many hold.
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Keep, subject has convictions for: 1. manslaughter, 2. armed robbery (with a sentence of sixteen years, a heavy sentence by Irish standards). He is also a high-security prisoner.
Autarch (
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22:09, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep But it's complicated. There are 2 Irish criminals named "Derek Hutch" The one in this article is a nephew of "Monk" Hutch. "Monk" Hutch also has a brother named Derek Hutch, a convicted rapist and thief who committed suicide in 2009 at age 44. His funeral was protected by police who anticipated that "hit squads" targeting other members of the family. My proquest archives search on "Derek Hutch" turns up more than enough to support articles on the brother and on the nephew of "Monk" Hutch. The British and, especially, the Irish press have covered both intensively over the years.
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Attempted to research Amber Doig-Thorne and only was able to produce results for the viral "Boyfriend VS Girlfriend" videos; not able to locate any significance of Amber herself.
WP:NWEB indicates that fame does not establish notability and that significant independent sources need to cover the established topic. This article fails to meet that criteria, therefore I nominate this article for deletion. This article failed a prior CSD:A7; therefore nominating via AfD.
Dane2007 (
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21:10, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - no credible claims of notability that make the subject of this article suitable for inclusion in an encyclopaedia.
Exemplo347 (
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21:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete - other than the videos, "celebrity" has no other credibility other than school and university events. Cannot find any information on premieres or dancing and modelling. Citations are self made sites and does not cohere with the information given about real celebrities. Almost appears self-made. I have also searched the celebrities on whole wiki celeb
[2] which is "celebrities" like Amber and if this page requires a wikipedia page then also do all of the unknown social media personalities that have also managed to get a page on it. — Preceding
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Unsourced
neologism for the
natural numbers, considered as a degenerate special case of
figurate numbers. This was prodded by
Wcherowi with the comment "Unsourced and not notable" and then deprodded by
Kvng with the comment "Consider merge to Figurate number" but I agree with Wcherowi. Without sources and without notability there is nothing to merge. So I think the better outcome is just to delete this. —
David Eppstein (
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18:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete unless it can be shown that this term has currency in the mathematical community (which seems vanishingly unlikely). --
Trovatore (
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19:04, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Either delete or redirect to
Figurate number, and the latter
(1) only if the term is mentioned in the latter article (which should get done if it hasn't been done yet and if it's appropriate) and
(2) only if one can either show that this term has some currency or if one can show that the use of the terms has been proposed in the literature (in which latter can it should say only that's it's been proposed or suggested).
Comment. It's not actually a proposed synonym of natural number, but rather a proposed name for natural-number-as-a-degenerate-special-case-of-figurate-numbers. Mathematicians' conventions for definitions fall short of encompassing that kind of definition in a regular way. Maybe that will change in the future.
Michael Hardy (
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19:53, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge to
Triangular number or
gnomon (figure). I added four sources to the article. This term has been used before in in discussion of triangular numbers, and there is a connection to Pythagoras. In sum total, the sources I found are not in enough depth to satisfy notability, but a few basics seem verifiable. The term as used here, is the gnomon of triangular numbers, so it would make sense to either merge just the initial paragraph to
triangular number or
gnomon (figure). --
Mark viking (
talk) 20:57, 2 July 2016 (UTC) Update David Eppstein has thrown doubt on the Deza sources, so that just leaves the Gazalé book. I was comfortable merging with multiple RS, but not just a single such source. The historical triangular gnomon should probably be mentioned somewhere, but not as a linear number. Without sufficient sourcing, delete. --
Mark viking (
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19:03, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete I agree with JohnBlackburne—made-up names should not be elevated to redirects unless good sources indicate the term has been used.
Johnuniq (
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02:32, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Deza's "Encyclopedia of Distances" has text copied from Wikipedia and shouldn't be used as a source per
WP:CIRCULAR, but I don't know of such problems with the figurate number book. —
David Eppstein (
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03:21, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
The Gazalé book has one mention of the term: "The order n linear number is none other than n itself, and its gnomon is 1." That does not establish
notability.
Johnuniq (
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05:55, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete' BUT there needs to be some encyclopedic house keeping at the same time. I cannot find quickly any references to 'linear number', so probably not notable, but there are heaps of references to linear number pattern, which is actually a synonym for
arithmetic progression, of which a linear number as defined is the simplest non degenerate example. Given the many references to linear number pattern I suggest this page be changed to a dab page pointing to
figurate number (linear number) and
arithmetic progression (linear number pattern), with also a redirect from
linear number pattern to
arithmetic progression. (By the way I had to look at
figurate number to work out what the
linear number article was really talking about. If it stays is needs a bit of a rewrite.)
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Delete. I strongly suspect a
WP:COI with the creating user, as he has only been editing about this subject (including
his first draft). The need for reliable secondary coverage has also been explained to the user in the
IRC help channel. I still can't detect any real improvement on that front and I don't think in this instance that it's down to a systematic bias or lack of English language sources.
KaisaL (
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17:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete: Potential COI editing aside (as not super relevant to a deletion discussion), I don't see enough reliable sources to establish notability here. I think that he's ALMOST there, but not quite.
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Local councillor and non-notable political candidate. Political positions held are not notable. No reliable 3rd party sources that are outside of his standing a candidate. Fails
WP:POLITICIAN.
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Delete. Unelected candidates for office do not get Wikipedia articles just for being candidates. Either you must show and
properly source that he was already notable enough for an article on some other basis independent of his candidacy itself, or he doesn't get an article until he wins election to a notable office. Plus, for added bonus, I just checked its "what links here", and five of the six links were expecting different people. Delete, and restore the original redirect to
W. J. Randall.
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Delete. I searched, but couldn't find anything to show that this webcomic would pass notability guidelines on Wikipedia. Notability for webcomics is incredibly hard to assert, as they're rarely covered in places that Wikipedia would consider reliable. Popularity or longevity don't really count for anything on Wikipedia, since neither guarantee notability. I feel for the webcomic, but it just doesn't pass notability guidelines on here at present.
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This just seems like an arbitrary list. The ideas in the top description could be included in some relevant article, but we don't need a list based on what day of the week a show originally aired; there's no specific characteristics of say a Saturday show vs a Sunday show, it's just a time slot. --Kraftlos(
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DeleteLate night television notes that "Japan's late night programming is reserved for late night anime", but I don't see why this deserves its own article, especially for the timeslot of a specific channel. (If anything, it could be mentioned on
anime) Searching for the term does not unearth any substantial coverage on the timeslot. It notes that several famous anime aired during it, but
notability is not inherited. Additionally, the list of shows that aired seems to be indiscriminate and the navbox doesn't really show a strong relation between the articles other than them having aired at the same time, defeating its purpose as a navigational aid.
Opencooper (
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07:14, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep The block is usually mentioned in several English anime-related sites, and even more on Japanese sites, to the point of having its own Japanese wiki page (with templates and everything). This must mean something in terms of notability.
Exukvera (
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20:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment This really depends on whether it's a specific programming block and whether that block is notable in itself like
Toonami. If it is, then the list of programming can be formatted in different ways depending on sourcing. At the simplest it should be a bullet list of shows with the Toonami main page, which can be easily sourced. More elaborate schemes like
List of programs broadcast by Toonami should only be considered if there are detailed sources.
AngusWOOF (
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14:45, 25 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Please make sure it isn't listings like
WP:NOTTVGUIDE though. The only reason Toonami's is so detailed is because of its sourcing and regular announcements, even then the older entries remain as lists. It can also be just a simpler list saying when it premiered and doesn't need all that detail about how many episodes or when it went off the air. It doesn't need the descriptions of each program. See:
List of programs broadcast by Toon Disney.
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Minimally sourced biography of a person notable mainly as the first member of the
New York City police force to come out as gay. Granted, he seems to have done it early enough -- one of the two sources is dated 1981 -- that there's a small element of surprise to this, but being the first openly gay person in an otherwise non-notable role is not in and of itself grounds for an encyclopedia article, if the fact of his sexuality is literally all that can actually be said about him. Besides that article from 1981, the only other source here is about a group of gay cops requesting that a city street be named for him after his death -- but there's no indication whatsoever that the request was successful. If he could be sourced over
WP:GNG for this then things might be different, but the volume of sourcing on display here doesn't demonstrate that he's earned a place in an international encyclopedia. Delete.
Bearcat (
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22:07, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
According to an article in the June 15, 2016 Daily News, he's getting "Charles Cochrane Way" named after him in Greenwich Village tomorrow (Friday, June 17). The article is unclear about exactly where this will be, and whether it is only a corner or some part of a street.
[3] The Gay Officers Action League website identifies the renamed location as "the intersection of Washington Place and the Avenue of the Americas"
[4]: this intersection is also the location of the
Church of St. Joseph in Greenwich Village. We should watch for coverage over the next few days to see if this ceremony yields additional material in reliable sources about Sgt. Cochrane. --
Arxiloxos (
talk)
22:57, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep - Once we are getting New York city streets named after a subject, reported in the mainstream press (see
THIS), GNG is fulfilled.
Carrite (
talk)
18:00, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - Here's another source counting to GNG, unfortunately blocked by a paywall by Newspapers.com: "Policeman Emerges from Threat to Limelight," Arizona Republic [Phoenix], Jan. 10, 1982, pg. 49 — extensive article about Cochrane, with photograph.
Carrite (
talk)
18:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
There is also an article, similarly paywalled by Newspapers.com, from the Poughkeepsie Journal, Oct. 10, 1984, pg. 23. Not quite sure the article title of that one, but coverage of Cochrane is substantial and mention is made of a story about him in the New York Post.Carrite (
talk)
18:12, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep,
Carrite demonstrated notability,
WP:HEY applies. Also, a look at Google Books suggests there is a lot more potential sources, even if offline
link. Vague and copypasted pile-on delete votes by the usual suspects should be ignored.
Cavarrone07:11, 5 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep I am usually not in favour of articles of people post 1960s where the only claim of significance is the subject's gender/orientation/religion. However, over here I find 2 claims which ensures that this is not a BLP1E
The coverage is not a one time event and there seems to be repeated coverage once in several years. There is some impact of the subject's work. This passes GNG
The subject is recognized for being the co-founder of GOAL and his contributions have been deemed to be notable by the congress as it elected to name a street after him.
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The result was delete. I am satisfied after a third relist that there is a consensus to delete here, particularly after one of the most thorough contributors to the debate returned to put their weight toward a delete.
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23:36, 12 July 2016 (UTC)reply
"Reliable" and "Secondary Sources": Rigamajig's references includes primary (creator and official websites) in addition to secondary sources. More news articles that capture Rigamajig's functions can be located: [
Chattanoogan.com], [
Island Monthly], [
Blue Ridge Now
"Independent of the Source": As previously mentioned, facts of Rigamajig can also be found in secondary sources
"Presumed": The sheer number and dominance in the Google search for the keyword "Rigamajig" provides the safe assumption that Rigamajig is worth covering in Wikipedia's literature.
To help provide a higher quality Wikipedia Article, It would be helpful to understand the specifics as to why Rigamajig fails the GNGuidelines. Please respond with a rationale.
Thank you,
Caterooni (
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16:18, 10 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete as I'm noticing the listed links but examining them simply found nothing actually convincing, this company is also rather new so that's also saying something about the availability of the needed coverage, especially since the company is localized.
SwisterTwistertalk06:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I will relist this again as the wealth of research into this subject appears to have been from a user that did not make any clear indication of their views. @
Coolabahapple: Would you like to revisit this debate?
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16:03, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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KaisaL (
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16:03, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - Both the sources brought forth by the article's creator and by
Coolabahapple seem to me to be based on press releases, rendering them not appropriate for showing notability. My opinion on that is certainly subject to debate, but there seems a considerable similarity in all of them. Comments?
John from Idegon (
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20:27, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment, on reflection, i should have said "probably notable", i would have been happy with this being redirected with a sentence or two to an appropriate article like 'Large construction toys', unfortunately there isn't one, i agree with
John from Idegon, that some of the sources can be seen as
promotional, so may not be useable. Although this looks like a great educational product, it does not quite meet
WP:GNG, and so should be Delete.
Coolabahapple (
talk)
05:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete To be fair, there are a few references which show that this "educational toy" is being used in certain places. But I haven't found the indepth sources required for keeping the article. Stuff like toys actually take a long time to become notable - this usually happens when some scholarly works reference the toy. This seems like a
WP:TOOSOON to me at this moment. --
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Weak delete - My vote can change if more reliable sources pop up. I can only find two, in English, that significantly cover the subject.
Meatsgains (
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14:11, 17 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete I don't see sources meeting
WP:CORPDEPTH, most of what's there, even the TechCrunch piece, fails at independence with quite a bit of it looking like material generated from a press release. That was my sense of the two Japanese-language sources I attempted to assess using automated translation as well. --
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The result was soft deleteBeach Run per low participation herein and no consensus (
WP:NPASR) for
Beach Walking per low participation herein. The delete !vote later in the discussion appears to only be referring to the initial Beach Run article in the nomination, per use of singular grammar ("its own notability"), rather than plural, which would pertain to both articles. North America100008:46, 11 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Both "Beach Run" and "Beach Walking" seem to be non-notable categories of sport. Almost all references on the web to its "governing body" that I see on Google seem to be spam type links. While there seem to be many references on the web to the concept of running on the beach or 5Ks that are held on beaches, there doesn't seem to be any notability to the concept as its own category of sport.
only (
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08:33, 15 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. The International Life Saving Federation, with its different sports specialties (Beach Run, etc), are recognized by the International Olympic Committee.
As I said on the Simple English Wikipedia RFD, that provides notability for the organization, but not for the sport. The sports of the ILSF that seem to be the sports they're recognized for are their life saving sports, not their beach running.
only (
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13:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: This has been a quiet debate so far. The only arguments to keep have come from a one-subject editor heavily invested in the subject, however there has also been too little on the other side for me to reasonably close this as a delete for either article. More contributions would be appreciated.
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15:50, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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The result was speedily deleted under criterion G11. As per the below, this should in no way be considered to prohibit creation of a neutral, appropriate article on this individual.
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PLEASE DO NOT DELETE , the article has recently gone through many corrections and additions made by me. I am direct relative and have added factually correct information. The information does not disrupt any guidelines.additionally, Mr. K.L Chugh is well reknowned and respected in India and the page does a good job of highlighting his involvements and awards. — Preceding
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Comment – The article is tagged for speedy deletion per
WP:G11, and in its present state it will likely be deleted per this. However, the subject actually meets
WP:BASIC (see some source examples below). As such, no prejudice against recreation of a neutral article based upon what reliable sources report about the subject. North America100006:56, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The references listed by
User:Northamerica1000 suggest that this subject may indeed be notable, and in light of these it would be amiss for me to close this as a delete just yet. Please also remember that poor sourcing/quality of content within an article does not a lack of notability make; See
WP:NEXIST. More thoughts would be appreciated over the next seven days.
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Support. I created this article a long time ago when I was new to Wikipedia. Since the Gliderdrome is already mentioned in the main article, a stub page is redundant and should therefore be deleted.
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The player has made no appearance in a first-class, List A or T20 match and so it is that he is not meeting the notability criteria Regards, Naz |
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Non-notable small company. The sources provided are all directory-like, associated or simply fail to mention the subject. My searches found nothing better. Furthermore, none of the claims made in the article, if verified, would tend to lead to coverage and notability.
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Delete: I tagged this
WP:SPA article after its initial creation as needing references to demonstrate notability. Since then I see a few directory listings have been added but there is still neither any claim nor any
evidence of
notability.
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Article was created by a blocked sock puppeteer/paid editor, and has not received substantial edits by other users. As the article was created before he/she was caught (but well after the abuse started), it doesn't qualify for CSD. I proposed deletion but it was deprodded on the basis of winning an Emmy Award, as claimed in the article. Of course, if you actually follow the refs, you see that it's not an
Emmy Award but a "Lower Great Lakes Emmy Award". Needless to say, that does not confer notability. Fails
WP:GNG. If there's a surprising claim to notability, I'd still suggest this be
WP:TNTed given the context, and recreated from scratch. — Rhododendritestalk \\
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Delete. This is very tough and there's probably a good case for keeping the article as well. The Lower Great Lakes Emmy Award certainly isn't a sign of notability, but the fact he's appeared on USA Today and some other bits do start to create a case. Given the story behind the creation of the article, though, I am inclined to suggest deletion.
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Weak Keep Delete/Keep decisions are based on whether a subject is notable and not on its article history. USA Today considers him to be a notable expert in his field per
this and
this, for example. WGN also considers him an expert
[13]. Other sources provide a biographical sketch.--
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USA Today writes about his expertise because he's an employee of USA Today. We need sources independent of the subject. I guess an interview on an AM radio station helps, but working for USA Today does not -- we'd need more articles like the WGN one about him/his work (preferably better than WGN). — Rhododendritestalk \\
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Delete I find nothing about him to use as a reference. Everything I find is either his own work, or others picking up on the "deals" he broadcasts or writes about. Those are not about him, and there's nothing substantial about them - just where to get the lowest prices on various products.
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Delete winning a local emmy does not make someone notable. Having under 150,000 Youtube followers almost seems like a sign you are not notable, clearly not one you are. We have no even moderately outside sources, and having some of his work published in non-local publications does not change the failure to even appraoch notability guidelines.
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WP:BLP of the president of an organization, consisting only of a single statement that he exists and sourced only to a glancing namecheck of his existence in an article that isn't about him. While this could be enough to qualify someone for an article if the sourcing and substance were solid, it's not an automatic inclusion freebie that entitles a person to a standalone article if this is all that can be said or sourced about him. Delete.
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Keep Numerous awards and honours that I have added using a rough translation from the article on the German wiki. He also has articles in the Polish and Russian wikis.
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Player that does not meet
WP:NFOOTY, almost certainly a case of
WP:TOOSOON. Listing because he has been called up to the Gabon national team, I can't find evidence that he played, but if he did it would allow his inclusion. (The call-up alone would not be enough.)
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12:12, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep. Subject is indeed a Gabon international, as
national-football-teams.com readily confirms, and has played in a fully pro league as stated above, so meets
WP:NFOOTY on both of its criteria. I've added sourced content to the article to make this clear. cheers,
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Notability not established, and is not even mentioned in the
Martin Cahill article. It doesn't seem like it lasted long enough to matter in the grand scheme of Cahill's gang activities, as it was in and out in a year. The first source is a trivial mention in a book, and the rest of the article summarizes the other source poorly, so I'll bet that the article content doesn't really reflect the sources, thus
WP:TNT applies, and it's not worth keeping.
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05:13, 16 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Your first source doesn't even mention CCAC, which is why I wish you would really stop just pasting URLs in and claiming notability is met, because you're clearly not reading the sources, and hoping that because you said keep, the article will be kept. In short, your first source doesn't mention CCAC, the second article about Martin Foley gives it two sentences, and the third is a simple namedrop in an article about a film about Martin Cahill. Well, just because these guys were involved with it because they started it, it's a biographical detail for them, not a standalone article for CCAC. Your bar for notability is well out of line with established policy.
MSJapan (
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18:33, 25 June 2016 (UTC)reply
So the first source does not cover this topic, I can't access the second one, and the third one falls short of significant coverage in my opinion, consisting of one very short paragraph about the topic (
link for editors without highbeam acounts).
WP:GNG requires significant coverage in multiple reliable sources, I fail to see how your sources satisfy that requirement, even if the second source is good.
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Along with Cahill, Foley faced down Concerned Parents Against Drugs - which Cahill's gang claimed was wrongly accusing "ordinary decent criminals" of drug dealing - by establishing the absurdly titled Concerned Criminals Action Committee.
In 1984, when the Concerned Parents Against Drugs group wrongly blamed Foley and his associates of dealing drugs, Martin Cahill established the Concerned Criminal Action Committee. Led by Foley, it marched on the homes of members of the parents' group. Eventually a truce was called between the two groups, after Foley was sent to negotiate with the parents' group, which had been infiltrated by republican elements.
[22],
[23],
[24], are great sources and indicators of notability here. I think Kvngs finding should be enough to justify inclusion. we dont delete per poorly made articles.
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Reposting the same three sources Kvng posted earlier (and which were already dealt with as trivial by two other editors) a second time does not suddenly make them "great sources and indicators of notability."
MSJapan (
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13:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Keep -
THIS is an impressive source. And
HERE is another book source. Not sure that this topic can ever get up to C-class, but that's not what we are assessing here. Passes GNG.
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Comment The article states it charted, so does that meet notability? I'm not familar with the music charts standard. If that doesn't meet the notability, then delete as an unlikely search term for a n/n entry. LugnutsDick Laurent is dead09:40, 25 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Redirect. It did chart, but only at #49 which is a low showing. There is little to say about it, so a redirect is the common outcome if there isn't much to say about the song. Ten Pound Hammer • (
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Delete In the UK it is generally accepted that the Top 40 is the relevant chart so in order to be notable for its position, it needs to be in that. This does not qualify.
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I can't really see it, especially since the article isn't really about the company, it's about the lawsuit. If this is all the coverage, wouldn't we be sliding into
WP:ONEEVENT area?
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16:59, 20 June 2016 (UTC)reply
I misspoke. How about
WP:ROUTINE? Essentially, there is a lawsuit, some news coverage that there was a lawsuit (ie routine coverage) and essentially no coverage about the company itself, the subject of the article. This would be akin to a small tire shop suing Goodyear for a quality issue and because someone wrote the Goodyear was being sued, we now try to call the tire shop notable. If the lawsuit were some sort of landmark decision, of course that would be different.
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17:00, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
That guideline would apply if the article were about the event that the reference I provided covers, but it isn't, it is about a company. The company is addressed in that independent reliable source directly and in detail with more than a trivial mention making no original necessary. That allows the topic to meet the the general notability guideline, it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.—
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The source article has 5 paragraphs. 1 of those is about another company and one is the bank's response. One is an introduction, telling us who is involved (Am Spirit and BoA) and that there's a suit. 1 sentence of the second paragraph tells about the company and one paragraph is the response of the owner (one sentence). At the most generous, the article contains 3 sentences about the company. Since GNG says "significant coverage" and "...multiple sources are generally expected", I'm curious how a single source, devoting about 3 sentences to the topic, gets past GNG?
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19:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete. I disagree that the Huffington Post article is enough to show that this is a notable company. It barely mentions the company. The company hasn't done anything remarkable or noteworthy.
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Delete The Huffington Post article is essentially about a "facebook post made by the owner of the company" and the company itself gets half-a-sentence coverage. I had a look and realised that other coverage about this company in questionable sources is essentially a rehash of the same. This fails
WP:CORPDEPTH or
WP:GNG which requires a significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. --
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The result was no consensus. The scarce participation with no semblance of a consensus makes it impossible to close this in any direction. A
bold editor may consider the option to merge.
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01:31, 10 July 2016 (UTC)reply
We don't have record label notability guidelines, but given that the label lasted all of six years and the sources given aren't RS, GNG is not met.
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Delete as it's not surprising there's no coverage of course because it has not even started yet, there's nothing minimally convincing at all.
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"Comment" I have made some adjustments to the article to highlight its context and relevance. The climate change initiative of Accompong should be regarded in the context of the state's domestic and international policy: as Accompong has never acted at the "international level" before, this is of course transformational and new behaviour which cannot be neglected. The state is in transition and the numerous discussions reflect that transition. We kindly request that you do not delete the article. (Maroon Master).— Preceding
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"Comment" regarding Ferron Williams: the colloquial address for Accompong's head of state is "Colonel", however the official title is "Colonel-in-Chief" which has been in usage for 279 years. (Maroon Master) — Preceding
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Delete. Another enclave of the
walled garden that is one editor's attempt to unilaterally declare
Accompong a micro-state sovereign nation—cleaned up, editor advised to stop. Little evidence this entity actually exists let alone that it is notable enough for inclusion.
Bellerophontalk to me18:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)reply
I am not a lone editor making "unilateral declarations", they have a passport supported and/or endorsed by the Government of Jamaica. There are notable changes happening in Accompong, including the current discussions for its symbolic recognition by CARICOM as the oldest sovereign territory in the Caribbean. While these changes certainly are slow in forthcoming, they are notable.
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Comment My inputs seek to highlight the evolution and changes within Accompong under its current Colonel, Ferron Williams. Given that he is in his second term, his activities are notable as are the new Maroon institutions he creates, it would be an error to omit the implications of his policies within the Wikipedia coverage of Maroon communities.
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Delete The article linked to above says that the "passports" were created so people could have them stamped as a memento of their trip to Accompong. We do not even have such crucial information as population in our article on Accompong. The article linked to above uses wording that suggests that Accompong may not have any residents at all, and it is also unclear if it has anything approaching defined boundaries. It is probably notable, but organizations and events in it are not without clear passing of GNG.
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Comment (keep), as the editor who moved the previous redirect of
Garden town to this new disambiguation page it seemed a sensible option as there were previously two pages 'Garden Town' and 'Garden town' disambiguated only by capitalisation. I also added (Pakistan) to
Garden Town (Pakistan). I agree with
Boleyn that this is a useful page and would be happy for it to be moved in title if that makes sense. Thanks to Boleyn also for adding 2 similar entries.
Mountaincirque10:15, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
PS, I would really appreciate an explanation from
GeoffreyT2000 as to why this is delete-worthy rather than moving or solving the problem more elegantly? I'm not very au fait with disambiguation so happy to be educated.
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Autobiography of young film actor who doesn't yet meet
WP:NACTOR. He played a lead role in one film of unknown notability, followed by minor roles in a few others. The only coverage I can find of him online is what's here: a paragraph in a page of short news items in The Hindu noting how young he is, and brief mentions in a few articles about films. He may well be notable in a few years time, but this is
WP:TOOSOON. I'm unsure about the surname: all of the references cited simply call him "Saran", and many Indian film actors work mononymously, but it seems we need to take his word for it for disambiguation from
Saran.
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A fanclub network for Eurovision. No assertion of notability, almost completely based on primary sources, and won't inherit by association with Eurovision.
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Delete He is a 15-year-old who has been involved in debate, evidently at the high school level, and has promoted himself over facebook. Nothing close to notable.
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Hi
Dane2007 .References 4, 5 and 6 (initially numbered 1, 2 and 3) are sourced from newspapers/news websites. Please re check and see the cited sources. Shall add few more, but these 3 definitely meet the Wikipedia guidelines as they are newspaper/news site articles. Thanks,
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Weak keep: Given that this is an actor from a non-English-speaking country and appearing in non-English films, I think some deeper research would be a good idea. Could be notable, just not have a very good article.
Montanabw(talk)21:51, 3 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete Technically, the burden of showing notability would be on the writer, not on those voting to delete or keep; as we stand, the article only shows Miss Sinchievici having had cameos in some films (which is presumably to be expected in such a young actors, but does not make her notable, at least not yet). As a native speaker of Romanian, I have scoured through google to see what sources would assess her notability, and all we get are a couple of promotional pieces in a tabloid or two.
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Keep. The artist isn't known for just one book. Her art and murals have been subject to acclaim in addition to her work as an illustrator. If anything, content of
All_Aboard,_We_Are_Off should be merged to the artist's page. I think the two deserve separate entries, but deleting the artist but leaving a work of hers seems to be the wrong way around.
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Speedy Keep I added numerous references. Back in the 1930-1950 period I think she may have been well-known. There are mentions of her paintings, carpet deisgns, illustrations and books in Google books. She appears in old "Who's Who" listings often enought that it was easy to find her basic bio information, 70 years down the line. She had a short article in TIME magazine. That was huge back then. I think the many mentions in Google books makes her anotable artist of that time, and of course notability is not temporary. Merits her own page.
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Comment I've now added over 20 references, which were not that hard to find. I also turned up four permanent collections with her work, three of which are major institutions: San Diego Museum of Art, the Smithsonian American Art Museum and the Walker Art Center. See page for specifics. The collections mean she automatically meets notability via point 4 of
WP:ARTIST.
Dane2007, I think it might be time to withdraw or close this nomination, to save some time.
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No apparent notability for this concept; all the references come from one author, and a Google search doesn't find anything else notable. There doesn't seem to be much to say about this concept, which apparently is just about a set of data that have the same "identifier".
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Previously PRODed for failing
WP:NSCHOOL and deleted as such in 2015, the article has been recreated. It sounds most of all like grumpy first-hand experience, and in my searches for sources I found nothing reliable and significant that would serve as the basis for a re-write. Thus, still failing
WP:NSCHOOL this is a Delete. Sam SailorTalk!23:59, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete This may be a
WP:COATRACK for the founder - but I'm not sure. The school appears to have had a maximum of 200 students at its peak. I don't find anything about in it searches but that isn't surprising given that it no long exists, was tiny, and located in Malwana, Sri Lanka.
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Company fails
WP:CORP. Highly promotional, lack of independent coverage. References are all press releases, directory listings, interviews with CEO, etc.
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Delete and I would've frankly PRODed but we may need G4 later considering the closely tied restarts, nothing at all convincing for any actual notability.
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Delete. None of the sources in the article are reliable significant sources. One is reliable (The Seattle Times) and only briefly mentions Chicoine as the article is about Francis Schuckardt and the death of his faction's nun. Most sources were written before Chicoine was born. The more current ones are religious publications (thus a niche publication), lawsuit document or unpublished letters. None of which are reliable nor significant sources. Citation (label as notes) quotes don't even support what they are supposed to support. I could not find any reliable significant sources (I did find "The Resurrection of the Roman Catholic Church: A guide to the Traditional Roman Catholic movement" by it was published by iUniverse, a self publishing company (they will publish what ever anyone wants).
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Delete as examining this still found nothing convincing for solid independent notability, the information and sources are nothing else beyond convincing.
SwisterTwistertalk19:22, 1 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment. Chicoine was only mention 3 times in that book. Notability, more specifically
WP:SIGCOV, however requires that the reliable source more than give trivial or passing mention of the person as the article or book must significantly cover the person or other subject.
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Hi there, the page has been updated since it was nominated for deletion. The article was created as part of the
Classical Composers Request List and was probably accidentally begun by clicking on the request link. References included and the article has been translated from
the Dutch Wikipedia page. Sorry for having an incomplete page pop up. If you still think it should be deleted, I leave it to you. --
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Speedy Keep Obviously this Dutch composer is quite notable based on these three references
[25],
[26], and
[27], and passes
WP:GNG. Perhaps this was a misunderstanding, and the nominator may want to withdraw the nomination, since they assessed the article before the translation from Dutch had been completed.
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Does not meet
WP:NACTOR, and had no accomplishments as a model. She has never had a major role on a film, and the article states in no uncertain terms that she only appears in her husband
Adam Sandler's films (aside from her first role), so
WP:NOTINHERITED also applies.
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Keep: Just because her only performances to date are in Adam Sandler movies does not automatically trigger NOTINHERITED. Her filmography has to stand on its own merits, regardless of whether they happened to occur because she may ave had an inside track. Just because he stars doesn't mean he has complete control over casting, either. This is an inappropriate AfD if the argument is that her marriage renders her ineligible,as there are many examples of notable women being cast with their significant others or spouses as stars or as directors (for example,
Eva Mendes,
Milla Jovovich,
Devayani (actress),
Kate Beckinsale, etc. to say nothing of several far more famous individuals like
Kate Winslet or
Helena Bonham Carter)
Montanabw(talk)20:44, 26 June 2016 (UTC)reply
No, the actual argument is that she fails
WP:NACTOR. Also, hate to point it out, but the vast majority of Adam Sandler's movies are produced by his production company
Happy Madison, so yes, he does indeed have a say in the casting of his films.
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23:55, 26 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Comment - I am no longer sure but I think it; meets
WP:GNG and
WP:PERSON, she's played roles in quite a few films dating back to the 90s and a search on google books reveals 1. There's books about her and her works and 2. There's books that mention her (some trivially, others not).
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Redirect to
Adam Sandler#Personal life This is an excellent case of "
notability is not inherited". I see some votes above which say she passes GNG. However, if you notice carefully, almost every single article talks about her in context of her husband and this is essentially
WP:INVALIDBIO. A subject cannot have its own article if the subject is primarily known as the spouse of a notable person. I tried to find out sources to see if the subject is independently notable and I failed. Here are the results of an exclusion search I did on Google news
From the above, we see that "Jackie Sandler" appears independently of Adam in only 10 results (and most of these trivially). Someone who is independently notable would have much more coverage.
Failing above, I tried to have a look at
WP:NACTOR. The subject clearly doesn't satisfy criteria 2 and 3. Criteria 1 requires significant roles in multiple notable films. The subject has acted in multiple films but they have been small roles. Significant roles in multiple notable films is required and that is not satisfied here.
Redirect to
Adam Sandler#Personal life. Previous points for removal are agreeable to me, but a redirect also makes sense for the ease of end users. I also took the liberty of search results for her name minus 'Adam', and there's pretty much none of relevance. She has no independent notability.
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She'd have the former as a definite credit, so no. The latter probably doesn't matter; the head accountant also has a leading role in the company, but we don't have an article on that person just for that reason.
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One of the band's singles, "The Fad", not only charted on more charts than this, but also better on both the charts it managed to receive. Its ultimate fate was deletion by PROD. Someone reverted my PROD of this one and suggested I take it here. Google search does not bring up anything relevant except for the Wikipedia result. I believe it is not worth merging as it is the title track of the album, so the search term is no longer notable. Also, there really isn't much notable content to it. dannymusiceditorSpeak up!15:21, 24 June 2016 (UTC)reply
Merge into
Point No. 1. I've also been unable to find anything on Google: a
Google search for "Point #1" Chevelle -Skeptic (with the song name "Skeptic" forbidden so that it will remove album searches), brings up pages of no substance at all, just lyrics pages and links to the music video and things like that, and a couple people showing how to play it on the guitar. If someone cared enough about the song individually to actually write about it, they either didn't do it on the web, or hid it well. --
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Delete I don't find anything that resembles a review or a bio in an independent source. I mainly find sites where his work is streamed online and a few notices of performances or recordings for sale. I note that he appears to be better known in Europe than in the US, which may color the results. However, I cannot find evidence that he meets GNG or MUSICIAN.
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Scarcely referenced, original research about a fictional character presented almost completely within the fictional context. There are notable characters, but Arthur Dietrich isn't one.
The previous AFD was closed as "no consensus" inappropriately. The reasons against deletion claimed that references were available, but the fact is the references cited were not specifically enumerated -- and they were not non-trivial sources. Of course this character appears in a book that enumerates all 70's sitcom; but there has been no citation given which deeply analyzes the character. --
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Delete and Redirect as there's still nothing at all, frankly there's never going to be anything in the future too, to suggest this can be its own actual convincing article.
SwisterTwistertalk20:48, 1 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Delete and Redirect, the subject of the article is mentioned in a few secondary sources but only trivially and in reference to fictional characters as a whole, and thus fails to meet
WP:GNG, the previous AfD (no consensus) fails to convince me that there's any reason to keep this article around either.
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Delete This is of solely local interest, as far as I can tell, and we require broader interest for entry into WP. A minor local official, a "local celebrity." Not notable in the WP sense.
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I was actually PRODing until I noticed the February 2013 PROD, but I still confirm mine: My searches simply found nothing better than a few trivial passing mentions, two of which were reprinted, there's nothing else to suggest the needed solid independent notability.. This frankly should've been sooner as my searches have varied from Books (only 2 links), News, browsers and SFGate.com, substantial coverage was not found. Notifying taggers
Wikipedical and
Mikeblas.
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Delete. I don't think there's any non-trivial third-party coverage. Anything I find is just a resume mention (as "such and so hosted a workshop there"), or an announcement of a show. --
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Delete I find nothing in the San Francisco Chronicle after 2007, and that's a minor mention. I would suggest a redirect to
The San Francisco Improv Alliance, which they worked with, but that article is unreferenced and probably also needs to be considered for deletion.
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The result was keep. Consensus is that the subject is likely notable, though sources from that time are not easily available online. Therefore, the consensus is to give it more time.Mojo Hand(
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Weak keep This fellow wrote for the "
penny dreadful" publishers, printed in the late 19th-early 20th century on poor paper, so they generally did not get into libraries and there are many that did not survive. I was able to add two mere references, both just mentions. The book as listed in Worldcat is only 15 pages long, so it's essentially a story. He may be lost to history, sadly. (Particularly interesting is that his co-author is listed as "Mrs. George Corbett". And the book title page mentions other works by him: "by James Peddie. Author of "Dangerous dilemmas" "Secrets of private enquriy office" &c.").
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Keep.
User:LaMona makes good points about the likelihood of the survival of the sources, and their comment on the other titles listed in the book's title page is actually a much better source of notability than they've made out. If they were publishing multiple books that were for mainstream consumption at the time, it's entirely likely that in the zeitgeist of the moment they were an inherently notable author. It would be a shame to remove them from history just because we can't, well over 100 years later, find lots and lots of sources. Sometimes we should look to the evidence that is available, and work on the probabilities - it's not like there's a
WP:BLP issue. Just my thoughts.
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Comment. I thought I had commented on this earlier, but apparently not. It is a pity that the nominator did not click on the one link that was already in the article when they nominated it - it would have taken them directly to the article in
The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction which they could not find. However, while that article does amount to one usable source, it says little more than is currently present in the article under discussion here. I can find one source on another work of his
this. There may be more, particularly since he seems to have had a long career - Amazon advertises a work of his from 1861. The trouble is that he seems to have been one of at least dozens of
hack writers in London at the time, even if he managed a longer career than most.
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22:58, 4 July 2016 (UTC)reply
keep I found and entered a very brief (single sentence) contemporary review of one of his books, that also mentioned the previous book by "the same authors". But it is the brief mentions of his book Capture of London in a number of French and English books on 19th century science fiction about the long-proposed Channel tunnel that makes this a keeper . Books google search here:
[31]. Remember that any particular books google search produces only some of the hits google finds (it was more complete before that copyright law suit). If you get a handful of hits, you can reliably assume that more exist. None of these is extensive, the book is more of a curiosity thing. But there it is.
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Delete as clearly failing GNG. The notability requirement isn't about determining the subject's merit (which Mr. Peddie may have); instead,
it's about ensuring sufficient sources currently exist that we can actually write a neutral, reliably-sourced, useful article. Coverage lost to the sands of time does not an encyclopedia write. Cf.WP:DEL7. Rebbing04:30, 8 July 2016 (UTC)reply
Weak keep. Cf this
advertisement in the Middlesex Courier, which gives an address and further works. An author of multiple well-reviewed potboilers is probably notable. I suspect the relevant sources are offline and in the UK.
Mackensen(talk)02:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)reply
@
SwisterTwister: Are you sure? I'm getting 167 hits (
link) and it's not clear to me that all of these are the same Mr. Peddie. More importantly, since when have we been able to prove notability by an author's own publications? GNG and BASIC are explicitly predicated in terms of how a subject has been received by others. Even if the author's supposed 1,200 listings were somehow a permissible source, how are they "significant" coverage? Is a phone book "significant"? Furthermore, not that even a million WorldCat entries would further
the purposes of our notability guidelines because they don't provide usable third-party material for writing the article. Rebbing15:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)reply
I don't get it. The AFD for an article like Jenna Fife (28 footnotes; 1098 words in body alone) is closed as no consensus with
half a dozen editors having no trouble seeing that the sourcing, while extensive, isn't significant third-party coverage, but the community is willing to divine reliable, significant, independent coverage from contemporary advertisements and single-sentence reviews and sources like
this to keep an article that is a mere twenty-three words because we imagine he may have been notable? Rebbing16:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC)reply
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