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The "economic regions of Canada" are not a notable thing in their own right — they are, rather, an internal
Statistics Canada mechanism used solely for aggregating employment statistics for various Canadian markets. And the only sourcing that exists for this list, further, is a Statistics Canada web page which doesn't even actually define what any of the regions are, but just lists them and then gives a general boilerplate "For census subdivisions: See: StatsCan website. For localities: See: StatsCan website." description under each and every last one of them — which means even the sourcing isn't actually helping anything or anyone. In effect, that just makes this a pointless list of things that will never actually have separate articles of their own — but Wikipedia does not exist as a venue for publishing lists of non-notable things. Delete.
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- Delete per nom. This is just a Stats Canada classification that nobody else seems to use. There are scattered mentions of Canadian economic regions, but they're rather generic and have no connection to this list.
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Individual notable for only one event, not passing
WP:BLP1E. Initial contributor,
Philmonte101, is definitely a good-faith editor and I would request that all input be positive and constructive. --
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- Keep My opinion is that the article should be kept. I think the subject is interesting and there are 3 references; I could really do more references to arrest archives. Is it even possible to keep the article? The research I did was honestly simple, since there are little resources out there. I feel like Wikipedia is a sum of research, and this is definitely the sum of my research on the knucklehead.
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- Strong delete - I seriously considered adding {{
db-attack}} to the page and would endorse others if they do the same. Wikipedia is not an encyclopedia of criminals. Yes, we have
notorious criminals and we have people who were notable in their own right before
before committing crimes but the vast majority of criminals fail
WP:N. When it comes to determining the notability of a criminal, the kinds of sources matter: Those which routinely report all crimes of a given type or all crimes in a given geographic location or all crimes which fit a certain profile are generally treated much the same way as "business directory listings" are - they don't carry much weight. There is also
WP:ONEEVENT, which generally means criminals who have only received press coverage for a single crime or crime spree don't qualify for their own article, but the underlying crime or crime spree might if it met Wikipedia's notability guidelines.
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- Strong delete as well. The subject definitely fails
WP:CRIME. Borderline
WP:CSD#G10. Having this article makes me seriously uncomfortable.
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Article PRODded with reason "Non-notable journal. Not indexed in any selective databases, no independent sources. Does not meet
WP:NJournals or
WP:GNG." DePRODded after a reference showing an in-passing mention was added. PROD reason still stands, hence: *Delete.
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- Keep. The numerous citations in Google Books shows that the journal easily passes
WP:NJournals #2. Also, the reference referred to above is more than simply an "in-passing mention", and probably indicates that it passes #1 as well.
Worldcat shows holdings in 600 libraries.
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- With regard to
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- Keep. The numerous citations in Google Books (as above) - if being heavily cited in the academic and scholarly literature is not enough to make a journal notable then what is! Do we have to have a 3rd party source which says "Priscilla Papers is a notable journal" somewhere. Nonsense! ::
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- Note - use the "Scholar" option from the "Find sources" element above and you get lots of such citations etc. ::
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- Keep. As others said, it's easily found in Google Book searches, and I just did a Worldcat search on it and found it held in over 600 locations near me. Easily passes
WP:NJournals #2 at least.
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- Comment The library holdings don't say much (apart from the fact that WorldCat is quite unreliable): the journal is open access (delayed, but still), meaning that many libraries will list it as an "Internet resource" because it doesn't cost anything. As for the GBooks searches, did you really see anything substantial (as opposed to some hits)? --
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Non-notable, run of the mill businessman. PRODed by
Wgolf on 25 March 2014 as unsourced BLP, de-PRODed by IP editor after adding the text "Nawroj Ali Khan, his nephew. His son , Muhammad Ali Khan's youngest son" at the end (possibly intended as some kind of reference; subsequently removed). Searches of the usual Google types, HighBeam, and ProQuest turned up nothing more substantive about this Jaban Ali Khan than wiki-mirrors and directory-type listings, so does not meet
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WP:BLP of an academic, which makes a potentially valid claim of notability but fails to
properly source it. The only reference anywhere in the entire article is not media coverage of him, but a PDF of a conference presentation by him — making it an invalid
primary source right off the top, before you even take into account the fact that it while it verifies his existence it fails to actually confirm the information it's footnoting. There's also a lot of
subjective and unencyclopedic language in here — the fact that his mother "would help all her neighbours", while lovely as it goes, has nothing to do with whether he belongs in an encyclopedia or not — which makes it remarkably unsurprising that the article was created by someone with "AUB" in their username (check again the name of the university the article subject is a faculty member at, and refer directly to
WP:COI.) While he might be eligible to keep a Wikipedia article that was written and sourced properly, he doesn't get to keep this. Delete unless proper sourceability in reliable sources can be shown.
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- Delete per nom. Now, this article only serves as a
CV. Further, in my evaluation,
WP:ACADEMIC doesn't necessarily hold. Only criteria that may apply for him is 6. The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed academic post at a major academic institution or major academic society.. However, per note, the institute has to be major and significant.
Asian University of Bangladesh only has minimal significance to warrant an article for its own, but not for its vice-chancellor(s). --
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- Delete Nom and nafSadh sum it up well. A vice chancellor, but at an ordinary, commonplace university.
AUB is in no way a major or significant institution of higher education and research, so he does not meet criterion 6 of the
professor test. Furthermore, searches of the usual Google types, HighBeam, and JSTOR turn up only an occassional passing mention (e.g. "was in attendance"), and a handful of articles he has authored with a small handful of citations of them. There is little verifiable information available, and nothing important to say about the subject, so a stand alone article is not warranted.
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The result was redirect to
Playtime Is Over (mixtape). Both this and the non disambiguated title will be fully protected. Whether to delete the underlying article is therefore meaningless.
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PROD was removed by creator.
Non-notable song from an early Nicki Minaj mixtape. Holds no significance or notability above the other tracks from the tape. Note: The article was originally speedily deleted under a different name (
Wuchoo Know) three times, and once under its current name if that makes any difference.
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- I absolutely agree about keeping a redirect. Makes sense. --
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- I agree with the redirect at
Wuchoo Know. --
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- I agree with your comment on articles not needing to be deleted before redirection, however it can't hurt, and may prevent restoration of the article by its creator (whom removed the AfD tag from the atticle 5 times).
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The result was delete.
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It isn't clear that she qualifies for
A7 speedy deletion but I can't find anything of substance about her under either of her names as written in Roman letters, and nothing but this article and three pages from the same lyrics site under her name as written in Bengali. Doesn't meet
WP:GNG,
WP:BIO,
WP:MUSICIAN. All of the sources given are affiliated or are other Wikipedia articles. On top of that, the entire article is written from a fan's point of view.
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- Comment - "written from a fan's point of view" is something that can be corrected and is no reason for deletion. However, failure to meet notability guidelines is. I found a few references such as these passing mentions
[2],
[3], &
[4] so there is more than just mirror sites. I am not sure if there is a name issue as the article states she changed her name in 2013. I guess I will wait and see if someone has any better luck finding more in depth sources prior to casting a !vote.--
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- Delete. Unfortunately, despite several warnings and G11 speedy deletions, the same contributor keeps recreating the article, under variations of the title, with the same promotional wording. I see no option but to delete.
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The result was keep. (
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just a catalog of their products
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- Keep - Company meets
WP:GNG and previously publicly traded before being acquired. Here are some references
[5],
[6],
[7],
[8]. There are a ton of brief mentions which can help fill out content in the article in order to make it more than just a list of projects. If the article is kept, I am more than willing to do the article cleanup. --
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- Keep company was listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange between 2007 and 2011 before being bought out, so it has quite a bit of coverage especially during that period
[9]
[10]
[11]. The article is poorly written but shouldn't be a reason to delete. --
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- Keep The article is not well-sourced at all, but notability and such attach to the topic of the article, not the article as it is now. As
WP:NPOSSIBLE reminds us: "The absence of citations in an article...does not indicate that a subject is not notable. " This was/is a public company with a ton of editorially independent discussion about it.--
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- Keep - Company is notable, secondary reliable sources regarding the company have been produced (see above), and it passes
WP:GNG and
WP:NCOMPANY. I agree that the article is not great, but this is completely irrelevant in the
AFD process. I would take some time and brush up on
WP:N
WP:V, and
WP:AFD before nominating more articles - this article is a clear 'Keep'.
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- Keep only if it can be improved.
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The result was speedy keep. Withdrawn by nominator, !votes are all neutral or keeps. (
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There is just one reference and this one reference doesn't say that the geological feature is called Kubrick Mons. This article has to be deleted.
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- My reason for deletion is that the source doesn't even say the geological feature is called kubrik mons. It would also violate the notability requirement
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- Keep There are adequate sources available for a stub. Seems intuitively clear that the feature is not going away and people will continue to want to know about it. The name is "informal" for now, perhaps, but that's OK — if it gets a different, more official name, we can always move the article. --
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- The source doesn't even say it is called kubrik mons
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This one does. So do several others that you can find just by clicking the link that was automatically added by the {{
find sources}} template. --
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- There is also the possibility of moving it to
Charon (moon)#Geology
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- As I said, adequate sources exist for a stub, and the feature is intuitively notable. I'm sticking with keep. --
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I'm just trying to cancel this darn nomination I started.
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The result was Keep as this seems acceptable (NAC).
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Appears to fail notability guidelines for academics. I did not find any notable fellowships, any notable posts at a university or at a journal, or any major impactful work that has met the guidelines. However, I could be wrong! (And I always hope I am!)
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I think she meets many of the notability guidelines. All this information is found on the page.
1. The person's research has made significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. - Her work on Navajo has definitely made a significant impact, her founding of the Navajo Language Academy reflects this.
4. The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. - Her coauthored textbook on Navajo is the official Navajo textbook of the state of Arizona.
7. The person has made substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. - Her non academic work with the Navajo Language Academy attests to this.
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The result was speedily deleted by
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No evidence of notability at all, no Google results for the title combined with "Bernie Jamon" except this page and one other WP page that logs speedy deletion candidates. Fails
WP:NFILM and
WP:GNG.
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- Speedy Delete. No WP:RS, possible hoax.--
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- Comment: This is a pretty blatant hoax. Initially I was going to just say that this was likely a hoax given that the lead actor is fairly well known and is pretty regularly covered in English language websites (or English searchable websites) and there's no mention of this film anywhere. However a look at the editor's talk page shows that he tried to create a similar article there for a film released in 2025 that's based on a book by the same name as this film. Given that there are no sources out there and it's highly unlikely that there would be no coverage in English for one of Cruz's new roles plus we have content on the user's talk page that gives off the strong impression that this is a hoax, I have to assume that the quacking here means that this is a
WP:DUCK. I do think that there is someone by the name of Bernie Jamon, but I think that this is more a young adult or child creating an article for their dream film they want to make one day.
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The result was delete.
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Not notable and Promotional -- see the COIN Noticeboard
[12]. his book is minor: only 40 copies in libraries, which is utterly trivial for popular works on finance. There is no other notability. We don't include articles even for actual unelected candidates for office--certainly not for those who just considered running.
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- Delete for now as I found some links at News, browser and Highbeam but there's nothing to suggest better improvement.
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- Weak delete He seems marginally notable. Marginally. His wealthy father was a director at McKinsey, won the Order of Australia, and doesn't have an article. The son is less notable; he's been loosely associated with important people and events, but hasn't done anything notable himself. His career high point seems to have been one TEDx talk.
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Fails pirnbio and gng. Nominations don't count
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- The relevant standard in PORNBIO is "Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media", which means that there needs to be more than one featured appearance (in the film in question here, Ms. Stokely starred as the title character "Eve", and Ms. Stokely was one of the contestants on the reality show in question here) and that the type of media needs to be
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Cinemax and
Playboy TV are considered, IMO, to be mainstream media).
- Subjects of Wikipedia articles can obviously be evaluated under many different inclusion guidelines, and the subject here has appeared as a mainstream model in the past. Therefore, she can be evaluated under the NMODEL standard, which (in this case) is very similar to the relevant PORNBIO standard anyways.
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- Comment - There do not appear to be any significant "unverifiable self-sourced claims" in the article under question here at this late date. The fact that the subject here has appeared as a mainstream model for American Apparel in the past is well-established at this point.
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- and that does not make her notable unless someone has written about her modelling for them in RS.
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- And the subject's account of how she entered the porn business ia self-sourced and unverified -- more accurately, her two entirely different and irreconcilable accounts, both referenced in the article. Her version of her hiring by American Apparel falls into the same category. Right now, all the biographical info in the article is as likely to be kayfabe, if not fabrication, as it is to be accurate.
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- "And the subject's account of how she entered the porn business"...is, in a word, unimportant. It's also neither unusual nor notable at all. I'm not aware of any Wikipedia policies that prohibit the use of self-sourced information in Wikipedia articles, especially for completely non-controversial or non-notable information.
- Again, that "Stokely has modeled for several American Apparel advertisements" is an established fact, beyond any reasonable doubt.
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WP:BLP requires the use of high-quality, reliable sources. An article subject who tells thoroughly incompatible, unverifiable stories about her own professional career simply isn't a reliable source. The fact that's she's appeared in a few advertisements may be an established fact, but it's far, far below the standard required to demonstrate notability.
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The result was delete. Any other articles than the originally nominated one must be nominated seperately
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I considered speedying this especially considering what it looked like before
here but given its age and amount of low edits, I wanted comments; the best my searches found was
this,
this,
this and
this. NOTE: I' also nominating another European company
Lestra for which I'm not sure is fully notable, the French Wiki has some more info but not convincingly much and the best my searches was
this and
this (I searched Newspapers Archive and found nothing so the only chance of good coverage is archived French media). Notifying Lestra past editors (July 2009)
Theroadislong and
Falcon8765.
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DGG Simply for curiosity though, what would you thoughts of Lestra be? I would also appreciate if you'd comment at
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeffrey W. Schroeder,
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lawrence Dial and
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eva Nazemson which have gotten low voting attention.
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The result was keep.
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WP:BLP1E of an accident survivor, which demonstrates no sustained
notability outside the context of that accident itself. If her incident had documentably led to a major advance in medical science, then there might be a case to be made that she warrants an article for it — but if the sum total of its enduring impact is that she awoke from a coma 49 days later, the end, then that's just not enough to warrant permanent inclusion in an international encyclopedia. Delete.
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- Keep We look for continuing coverage two of the reliable sources posted are from 2015 showing the subject has been covered for 3 decades. Also sources describe the case as a miracle. The uniqueness of the case lends itself to notability.
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- "Miracle" is not a claim of notability that gets a person into an encyclopedia — it's an inherently
unverifiable and
non-neutral assertion. And the fact that one or two human interest stories might look back on something that happened 35 years ago does not demonstrate that the subject has been covered in a sustained way "for three decades", if you can't find any sources that are dated anywhere between 1981 and 2015.
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- The subject here is clearly verifiable by reliable sources. Here is a book source from 2002
[14] and another medical source from 1983
[15].
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The result was delete.
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I simply found nothing to suggest better improvement with
these links being my best search results and this article has existed since December 2008 and started by a "Etren" (somewhat suspect this is the subject himself). Notifying past taggers
Zanimum and
Dawn Bard. NOTE: I'm also nominating another sports bio
Phil Shao who although seemed to have gotten a fair amount of coverage locally especially for the memorial park (see my best results
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here and
here), I'm not sure if there's enough for a separate article and at best should be briefly mentioned at the Redwood City, California article. This article has existed since May 2006 and has hardly changed since then. Notifying author
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- Well, in 2008 I tagged it with the {{notability}} tag, so yeah, even then I agreed with deletion. Amazed that it lasted so long. --
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- My edits in this only involved two cleanup edits to the
Phil Shao article. I have no idea why I was singled out from among the other editors to that page. I have no personal interest in either article. I'm not sure these two deletions should be bundled however.
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The result was Fatally flawed. This AFD was a mistake from the start, nominating two subjects with no apparent connection at all. Reboot this as two AFD's if desired, but this one is so flawed from the start that it cannot reach a consensus to do anything.
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My multiple searches (Books, News, browser, highbeam, BBC, WalesOnline, South Wales Evening Post, Daily Post, South Wales, Argus, ITV and The Guardian) found nothing outstandingly good to suggest better improvement with
this,
this and
this being my best results so there's simply no improvement or move target for this article existing since February 2009. Inviting recent editor
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The Kings of Spain as my searches simply found nothing better than the listed coverage and what's more is that The Kings of Spain's website no longer exists therefore suggesting the band no longer exists themselves. This band's article has existed since August 2006 and was most likely started a band member or a fan. Notifying author
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Question: @
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Bethan Nia, the other is a band,
The Kings of Spain. Why are they
WP:BUNDLEed? --
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WP:BLP, resting entirely on "local interest" news coverage with no evidence of wider national or international media attention, of a musician notable only as a local
busker. This is not a claim that satisfies
WP:NMUSIC in and of itself, but there's nothing else here (such as having released albums, etc.) that does so either. Delete, without prejudice against recreation in the future if and when a more substantive claim of notability and a wider array of sourcing, not limited to a single media market, can be provided.
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I think it's somewhat inaccurate to say the sources were limited to a single market. Yes, it is true the first five articles were broadcast locally, but the two most recent received national attention: Sebastian Brown was featured on the cover -- not a local subsection, but the national cover -- of the
Toronto Star, which is the most widely circulated newspaper in Canada; and the CTV story aired twice on
CTV National News, again, a nationally-televised broadcast, not a local edition. He also appeared on television in
Taiwan, on a report by the
CNA, which is that country's state broadcaster. To reiterate, this article has multiple reliable and independent sources, is the main focus of the articles published by those sources, and indeed has been the subject of wider national and international attention. this certainly satisfies
WP:MUS number 1, and also number 7 (Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city; note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability): a Google search of "Ragtime Toronto" or "Honky-Tonk Toronto" yields several articles on this performer in the first two pages. Keep.
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- NMUSIC #7, for the record, does not mean that every individual combination of "City" + "Musical genre" that you could possibly come up with creates an automatic inclusion freebie for one musician; rather, the particular City + Musical genre combination itself has to also be a notable, encyclopedic thing in its own right. For #7 to have any bearing on whether Sebastian Brown qualifies for an article or not, we would have to be able to write an article about "the Toronto ragtime scene" as an identifiable phenomenon of international interest — the criterion does not mean that every individual musical genre that exists at all automatically entitles the most locally prominent Toronto musician in that genre to a Wikipedia article, if that genre's Toronto-based "scene" isn't a thing that people outside of Toronto have also heard of in a substantive way. If "Toronto ragtime" were a thing that was getting international attention in international music media, then #7 would come into play — but #7 does not mean that you can just snap any city and any musical genre into a "most prominent of the local scene of a city"
snowclone to create an automatic inclusion right for one local musician in every musical genre that exists in the city.
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- Fair enough, but I still don't see how the article fails to satisfy #1, for the reasons I listed above.
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Very convincing argument by Nate Diddly, it seems that the article already satisfies the criteria outlined by
WP:NMUSIC in addition to the new additional criteria described by Bearcat. Keep.
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WP:NMUSIC exists for a reason. Why are we inventing additional requirements for notability? Where are these new requirements coming from? Please refer to
Wikipedia:List of policies, or cite some precedent.
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- At this moment, the only one I can think fits best is music notability guidelines as the current sourcing does not set him apart from any ordinary musicians and will likely even need better coverage local notability much less all around notability.
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He was featured on the cover of the Metro -- the most widely circulated paper in the entire country -- and was featured on the cover of the Star -- the second most widely-circulated paper in the country. Again, not a page-17 footnote, but a full-on feature on the front cover of the two-largest newspapers in the country. And he was featured on CTV National News -- the most widely broadcast evening news program in the country -- and on the State Broadcaster of Taiwan. These clearly satisfy the notability guidelines, in addition to the new guidelines we've invented specifically for this one article, all of the information is well-sourced and detailed, the sources are professional, independent, and consistent. I really don't understand what more we're asking for. Keep, again.
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- Please note that while you're allowed to comment in an AFD discussion as many times as you like, you're not allowed to make more than one bolded keep or delete "vote". Accordingly, that part of your comment here has been struck out.
- As for the newspapers, Metro consists of several distinct local editions which do not share most of their content across markets; he may have made the cover of the Toronto edition, but he certainly did not make the cover of every edition. And the Toronto Star attains its circulation figures entirely by virtue of being the dominant newspaper in the country's largest metropolitan area — it does not have any significantly-sized readership outside of the GTA. And newscasts, even national ones, routinely carry human interest "here's somebody you've never heard of before who's doing something kind of cool" pieces about people who don't get encyclopedia articles just because that newscast carried that piece, especially when they can just borrow a piece already created by one of their affiliate stations instead of having to commit their own resources to producing a separate one. And as for the coverage in Taiwan, you keep asserting that but you haven't shown any verifiable proof that it's true — people routinely try to get their pet articles into Wikipedia by claiming that coverage exists which actually doesn't pan out when somebody actually tries to find it, so it's not enough to just say that it exists if you don't show it.
- Ultimately, "what more we're looking for" is evidence that he's done something, such as having released albums or songs that are actually getting radio play, that would make him somebody that any significant number of Wikipedia readers are likely to have already heard of, in a significant, sustained and "will actually remember his name twenty minutes later, because they've already heard it more than just once" sort of way. If a person could get an article on here just because their existence was verifiable in two or three distinct sources, we'd have to start keeping articles about heads of local PTAs and neighbourhood watch committees and coordinators of church bake sale committees — hell, we'd have to keep an article about me if that were all it took. Coverage can't just exist; it has to verify that they've done specific things that would make them a topic one would expect to find in an encyclopedia.
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- 2<10. Please direct me to ten distinct professional sources about the same head of a church bake sale committee.
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- Any city that has even one local media outlet will always have at least a couple of dozen, likely far more, people who are active enough in the local community to get their names into media coverage on that local outlet anywhere from two to fifty times a year. (Just as an example, there's no such thing as a city councillor, in any city, who doesn't get media coverage locally, yet we explicitly deprecate city councillors as not appropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia except for a very rarefied tier of special cases — because even though all city councillors could always pass GNG on local coverage, the substance of that coverage almost always fails to demonstrate any particular reason why they would warrant the attention of an encyclopedia with an international audience.) And the more local media outlets there are, the more likely it is that both the number of locally active people who are getting their names into the local media on a moderately regular basis and the number of media hits they're getting are going to shoot up even further. But that still doesn't necessarily make them all suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia just because that coverage exists, if it's not covering them in a context that's of any substantive non-local interest (such as a musician having actually recorded albums that have actually garnered national or international release.)
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- This is a screenshot of one of the CNA articles, but I can't find the originals because I don't speak Chinese.
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- Sebastian Brown is well-known in downtown Toronto. I work in the area and talk with a lot of people there, most are aware of him. Of course, anyone could make such a claim without evidence, in which case we should say, "Who cares?" But the extent of the media coverage speaks to the subject's notability.
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Unsourced stub about a Portuguese title of nobility. I was unable to find public sources to
verify the information in this article. Additionally I have concerns that it may fail the
notability guidelines.
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- Keep: I wish to side on keeping the article on the counts of Paço de Arcos. First, the article's references state the source of the content (including page number). Owing to the subject matter they are in Portuguese, as would be expected, including the [
this] from which this general article was based. Furthermore, in terms of notability the Counts of Paço de Arcos have appeared referenced in other online resources, this general article only uses the "Count" variant of the Portuguese. Regardless, a search on the subject matter will discover other references to "Conde de Paço de Arcos" or "Conde de Paço d'Arcos", including examples of genealogical records, thesis and online research. As much as they may be skewed to the first count, the countship is discussed, noting the importance in the diplomatic, military and economic spectrum in the formative efforts in Brazil. I can also cite that there are online references to Henrique Belford Corrêa da Silva, 2nd Count, indicating the counts importance as well. I hope that this will justify the Countship of Paço dos Arcos/d'Arcos. I suggest that this content be considered a "stub", but that there are important reasons for keeping it.
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- Keep from what
User:Zeorymer says, this is clearly not a hoax, but a genuine hereditary title of nobility. We have articles on every such British title; and I see no reason for not having them for other countries. The only exception for British titles is where the first holder was also the last, when we redirect to his bio-article.
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The result was delete. Unopposed nomination. Can be restored if more relevant sources are found.
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Can't see any reason for notability. Didn't receive the baronetcy himself (for those who may be in doubt, a baronet is not a peer, doesn't sit in the House of Lords, and therefore does not qualify under
WP:POLITICIAN). Or indeed any other honours. A mid-ranking military officer. And a Deputy Lieutenant doesn't qualify either - it's just an honorary position. Just a genealogical article. --
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The result was Keep: Withdrawn by nominator with no remaining votes to delete or merge.
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This article is about a character in
The Shining. The article is completely unsourced, full of obvious
original research and in my opinion it does not contain any verifiable information that
The Shining (novel) does not adequately cover. Additionally, the article is poorly written with numerous typographical and grammatical errors. I recommend its deletion per
WP:CITE,
WP:STYLE, and
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- I no longer wish to propose the article's deletion, however I think it may be a good idea to leave this open for a while to see if there is consensus for a merge or not. However, if someone believes the discussion ought to close, we can move the merger proposal to the article's
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- At this time I would like to withdraw the nomination as there no longer seems to be cause to merge.
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- Keep as a notable fictional character; I have added some commentary about Danny Torrance based on his central appearance in Doctor Sleep. There also appears to be commentary about Danny in The Shining (both the book and film). I also rewrote the lead section to give the character's fictional appearances more real-world perspective, such as who played him onscreen. Also support moving to
Danny Torrance as the common name for the character.
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- Keep With the update and assertion that the character is notable in multiple books, I'm satisfied that there is no longer cause to delete the article. Major props to
Erik for a major overhaul that saved this article. I will be withdrawing this nomination.
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Redirect and merge per above. I think I'd need to see sources that do some substantial character analysis before I would feel the character is notable enough, but I'm open to seeing what else may arise during this discussion as well.
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Mww113,
Doniago, I added more content as seen
here. When it comes to fictional topics, there will naturally be redundancy. An article about a work of fiction and an article about a fictional character will share content, but the focus will differ. I would agree that if a character appears in more than one work, it increases the likelihood of coverage of the character across multiple works. To have an article about a fictional character that appears in only one work, there would have to be a lot of coverage very specific to that character. If the character appears in multiple works, then a stand-alone article can be appropriate to consolidate all the
significant coverage in a place that stands above any one article covering each work. I would also say in this case, Stephen King was apparently propelled to write Doctor Sleep out of others' specific interest in Danny's fate.
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- In addition, merging complicates where to put comparative content. Coverage about Danny beyond the original novel would not quite belong at the novel's article as it would in his own article. I think it is detrimental to balkanize the content.
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- Since my last comment, I've expanded the article by over
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- Keep: I've removed my merge !vote: I don't think it's a problem to keep the article now that it discusses the character in a broader context and asserts notability. --
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The result was delete.
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There's simply not much to suggest better improvement and although my searches found links for the theatre reviews
here,
here,
here and
here and I doubt that the fact they were reviewed suggests she is independently notable.
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- Weak Keep The reviews do provide appropriate coverage to establish notability, but the material listed above and available elsewhere should be added and integrated into the article.
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- Delete I see nothing at this time to establish notability. She has been in the cast of 3 productions that I find, but I find very little which actually reviews her participation. A
2013 review of a Wicked revival said her work was "excellent at preserving" the musical and a
2015 review praised her work and the "beautifully complex choreography". But those are the only two sentences I find that actually go toward "her" notability. No biographical information, interviews, personal data, etc. that would lend to a stand alone article. Clearly she has helped
Wicked maintain notability and it may be that she deserves at least a mention in that article.
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The result was delete.
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Questionable notable and the best links I found were
this,
this and
this. Pinging users
GermanJoe and
Johnpacklambert.
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Keep Article just needs sourcing. Sources are available. Article, in fact, is already tagged for sourcing, which raises the question of whether it is appropriate to bring articles to AFD when they seem fairly clearly to simply need sourcing.
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- Delete. Sourcing is not the only issue here. The subject did not compose any of the music in the films listed in the article -- he composed the music for the trailers. Similarly with the list of television programs -- the subject did not compose the music, he orchestrated the work of others. As for the ESPN themes, it is difficult to see how those brief instrumental themes confer any notability on the composer (and I note that the linked articles don't refer to the theme music at all, let alone discuss the input from any one composer). In all, I see a man who is having a successful music-related career, but not one that is worthy of notice by an encyclopedia. Going back to the question of sourcing, I see that much of the article's current state was added by
User:Nathanhofheins. I presume that this is the same person as the subject of the article (and, if not, my apologies to the user). It is reasonable for us to note that, if the subject himself is unable to find sources for his statements, the rest of us have little hope of doing any better.
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The result was keep. (
non-admin closure)
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Questionable notable and easily A7 with its current state and the best my searches was
this,
this and
this. This has existed with basically no significant improvement since starting February 2009. Pinging past users
Nikkimaria and
Ground Zero.
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- Keep and improve; article needs a thorough re-write, and sourcing. However, it is not a good candidate for deletion, The Rev. popped right up on google. Involved in what appear to be a series of scandals involving misappropriation of grants and donations.
[18] , misuse of public funds
[19] convicted
[20] and given probation. He was a D.C. activist of some note, and a Marion Barry cronie. Certainly notable enough to keep. WaPo has lots of stories here:
[21] on his good works and leadership, as well as on his financial skulduggery.
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- Comment -- From what I see in the article, I would have thought he was NN, but it sounds as if he is notorious. Is that sufficient to keep? No vote
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- It is, his positive accomplishments can be on the page, along with his criminal activity. I have been involved with a somewhat similar situation at
Matthew C. Whitaker, popular professor, real accomplishment, but most coverage is about his plagiarism, which has caused page-blanking and whitewashing, similar to the history of this page. The solution is not deletion.
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- Keep and improve to give a full and balanced summary of the range of views available. The sources E.M. Gregory points to above are sufficient to meet
WP:GNG. The Washington City Paper pieces are well larded with speculation, innuendo, and sensationalism, and would have to be used carefully, but the Washington Post pieces are better, and several are substantial, such as
[22],
[23] and
[24], and
[25].
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The result was delete.
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SPA-created article about a probably non-notable Swiss-English artist. Ref #1-2 are common gallery infos (of the same gallery), ref #3 is mostly about her husband and covers the artist only in 2-3 passing mentions. Ref #4 doesn't point to any direct information about her. A Google search found no in-depth coverage.
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- Delete Seems to lack basic coverage. Even the cited "Two Artists of Exceptional Talent" hardly mentions her. I found little more than was cited already in her article. The Visarte Ticino gallery (in FN4) link was dead and defaulted to their main page, but there were other mentions of her on other pages of their website, for example
here on page 24. But fails
WP:GNG and
WP:NARTIST. Three of the eight hits in Google books were "Who's Who" bios of her husband, Paul Glass. One was a gallery catalog of her work from Galleria SPSAS. One was the exhibition catalog of the show "Acqua, terra, cielo, fuoco" running 16 September - 1 October 2000, which featured four artists. A third catalog was a gallery catalog of a 2 March - 5 April 2012 show. Textilforum (2001) listed her once in a sentence with several other artists and one Myths and Counter-myths of America: New World Allegories in 20th Century Italian Literature and Film did not mention her at all. --
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The result was delete. --
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Can't see any reason for notability. Didn't receive the baronetcy himself (for those who may be in doubt, a baronet is not a peer, doesn't sit in the House of Lords, and therefore does not qualify under
WP:POLITICIAN). Or indeed any other honours. A junior military officer. Just a genealogical article. --
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- Keep his war record can certainly be sourced to newspapers of the era. He almost certainly has an obit for the came reason someone has given him a Wikipedia page: he inherited a baronetcy. Also, he inherited a baronetcy, ergo, reliable sources on him exist. The lives of baronets get recorded. At the very least, there will be news reports of his birth, marriages, war service, coming into the title, and death. Tagged for sourcing.
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- Being a captain and inheriting a baronetcy have never been considered good reasons to give someone an article. You will notice that only first baronets usually get articles unless they personally did something significant. He didn't. --
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- Delete. No sources that would establish notability are cited here or in the article. "They are out there" is a weak argument, see
WP:BURDEN, and nobody seems to want to argue inherent notability just because of the title.
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- Delete The article basically only covers 2 pieces of information about this person: that he was a soldier who fought in 2 wars and that he was married twice. The fact that he "received" a "baronet" is not even mentioned in the article, I had to learn that from this AfD. --
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The result was keep. Discounting the nominator's statement, which makes no sense, and the two redirect opinions that offer no arguments, we have clear consensus to keep.
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It is totally a story.
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- Keep Almost infinite academic sources on the topic. Covers different issues to the Squire's Tale article. Many thanks to Rich Farmbrough for heavily improving the article.
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- Prune then merge to
The Squire's Tale, as a section on the Squire (who tells the tale). This is ultimately a FORK of that. Canterbury Tales is a very important literary work, but I do not think we ought to have more than one article on each tale.
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- The problem with doing that is the interplay between the tales, the pilgrims and the characters in the tale. For example in The Reeve's Tale the character and cuckolding of the story Miller is certainly interpreted as a slight by the pilgrim Miller. And in the instant case, as I have just added, one queer theory interpretation of the General Prologue draws The Pardoner into the discussion about the Squire, as a foil. The Squire is also important for understanding The Knight - who is still wearing the clothes he was wearing when he returned from the war. How, one might ask, did the Squire manage to maintain his immaculate image?
- That's even without the obvious questions of glossing the description from the General Prologue which the original editor attempted - take for example the last line And carf biforn his fader at the table. despite six centuries the language is understandable, but we need to explain that the custom was for the senior squire to carve the meat in front of the knight (twentieth century interpretation of the line might read this as an attempt at usurpation) and therefore this reflect on the Squire's success in his chivalric endeavours.
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- Keep, essentially per
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- Keep per Brustopher's analysis. To argue that there isn't enough critical commentary on Chaucer to support an article on one of his significant characters is utter barking madness.
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The result was keep. Overall consensus to keep (
non-admin closure) –
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This list is only slightly larger than what is already in
Sialkot.
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- Delete The list here is more than twice as long as the list that was removed from by
Sialkot article by
GreenCricket on 2 October. I would agree that currently the much longer
Category:People from Sialkot does the job much better than a list that requires periodic maintenance. However, I could envision an annotated list, organized by occupation and then chronology that would be appropriate, assuming that the guidelines of
WP:Stand-alone lists for criteria that are unambiguous, objective, and supported by reliable sources are met. Adequate background information, also supported by citation to reliable sources, would need to be included in the
lead. I note, for example, that there are twenty-eight cricketers from Sialkot that currently have Wikipedia articles. That said, this is not that list, and I suggest
WP:TNT. When and if an editor wishes to create a list that does not duplicate the category, and which in turn complies with the guidelines at
WP:Stand-alone lists, including individual citations for sources demonstrating the connection to Sialot if such are not present in each person's article, then recreation would be a valued contribution. Delete for failure to conform to
WP:Stand-alone lists. --
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- Keep I have done necessary edits and added more personalities so i think article should be kept and secondly i prefer to discuss this article with Pakistani wikipedian so decide whether to kept or to delete. I think it's enough
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- Keep per
WP:LISTPURP as an index of notable topics and as a reasonable
WP:SPLIT from
Sialkot, and per
WP:CLN as complementary to
Category:People from Sialkot. Lists of notable people from a notable place are completely standard, and I see nothing particular to this list that would single it out for deletion, certainly no unfixable problems that would merit TNT (and deletion is always an odd way to go about expanding content). At best we'd merge it back to
Sialkot, not delete it, but
WP:SIZE alone would preclude that as this could be expanded to well over 100 entries judging from the corresponding category.
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The result was delete, TOOSOON and even no evidence the results were ever published in refereed journals--
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No
secondary sources available for this theory.
WP:TOOSOON.
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I might add that both of the references that I have added have either been or is in the process of being accepted for publication. — Preceding
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- Merge to
Quantum holonomy - when that is created. All the best:
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- Rich, its a little tricky, because "Quantum holonomy" is not directly what QHT is about - so I don't think merging to
Quantum holonomy is a good idea. In QHT 'Quantum holonomy' is actually short for "Quantum holonomy-diffeomorphism", which we thought was too long for a title. If this article is not deleted then I will expand it with more information. — Preceding
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- Delete as too soon. It is too early tell if this work will have an impact on the field. There are no independent secondary sources discussing the topic in depth, which is a requirement for having a Wikipedia article. (A topic must be notable, already well-known, first.) The two references are primary sources, one still a preprint. In Google scholar the published source has only been cited twice and one of those is the preprint.
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- Comment: Could this be merged into
quantum gravity until such time as it may deserve its own article? — Cheers,
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The result was keep.
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This has been around for ever without a single ref. The text seems to provide no special claim to notability, and as it stands it fails
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- Delete Fails
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- Keep. The founder seems more notable than the band, but there's still coverage. They seem to have an extensive catalog, and I've located several reviews of their work:
[27],
[28],
[29],
[30]. Also a few interviews and such:
[31],
[32],
[33].
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- Any significant coverage in
WP:RS? Also the article says many of their recordings were self-released. --
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- I have no idea about the history of the band, and it's not easy to find facts online. But they got reviewed by
Spin,
CMJ,
Tiny Mix Tapes, and
Punknews.org, which is enough for
WP:BAND #1. I don't know what a "more important indie label" is, but they apparently released albums on
Relapse Records and
Alternative Tentacles, both of which I would think satisfy #5. Also, this is perhaps contentious, but they seem to have originated or had a hand in originating
powerviolence, a genre (see
[34] from
Vice; also
[35] from
The Quietus and
[36] from
San Antonio Current). That would maybe satisfy #7. They have no hope of satisfying the other criteria, but they seem to be well-known and respected within their niche. If you're wanting an article in
Rolling Stone about their history, no, I can't find that. I can do more digging to find articles about their history, but I don't think these are available online.
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The result was delete. The "keep" opinions mostly do not address the sourcing situation, which is all that matters in such circumstances, I'm afraid.
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appears to have had a significant role in only one film, a film which does not yet have an article (the apparent link in the article is just a redirect to the article on the director)
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DGG Found that this article has done significant role in a film called
Kerintha. Request all of you to take a look at the links which has been provided and as he is a famous personalty from
Tollywood industry and is about to make one more movie, he deserves an article on wikipedia. kindly consider and do the needful.
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- Delete I cannot find any importance with this article. But in later we need to provide an article on Wikipedia for him. As from the references i cannot even find any websites which is listed on Google.
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- Shouldn't be Deleted
DGG Found that this article is a well known actor from
Telugu film industry and has earned a good name and fan base with his first movie "
Kerintha". He is committed to other three projects in which one is going to be produced by the same production house of
Kerintha. Apart from that he is doing some modeling assignments also. Considering his current and upcoming projects this Article will help many people who want to know more about him. Kindly consider and do the needful. — Preceding
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- that's a mere listing, like IMdB`
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- Delete @
SwisterTwister: Thanks for the ping. Quite frankly, I had CSD'ed this tag when it was in
this state.
Itsmeesathya decided to remove the CSD tag
here, which wasn't appropriate in the first place. Although there is an article for the film, the notability of the actor, even in the context of the film, doesn't seem to be substantial enough. --
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- Shouldn't be Deleted I understand the rules and regulations of Wikipedia but i see everyone opposing the article. yes i agree today it might not be famous to complete audience but relevant audience would like to know more about the article. so according to A7 clause i feel this article should stay and need all your support. May be in future the article may grow more in content and as the article is growing towards a good establishment
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- Undo Delete With all due respect, the article is about a significant person from Tollywood, just because you don't him doesnt mean that he should have a wiki page. He is doing decent contribution to the industry and is well know for his endorsements as well as his upcoming movies. So I suggest that this page should not be deleted.
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Oiyarbepsy i think you have given the correct criteria clause but forgot to read it. please have a look at
WP:TOOSOON where it is clearly mentioned in Actors and actresses section that A good example of this is Paris Jackson, as seen in this Articles for Deletion discussion:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paris Katherine Jackson. At the time of the discussion, she had been announced as the star of a film that would be released a year after - however, the film had not actually been released yet. If or when the film is released, and if Jackson is the star of the film, she likely will merit an article, but not until then. Look at the bold sentence and have a check. Here
viswant movie is released & he has done a critically acclaimed role and suitable links are provided which is more then enough but still everyone are arguing without even understanding the whole clause in
WP:TOOSOON. I request you all to go through this and this article Shouldn't Be Deleted.
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The result was Keep. Consensus is for article retention. Also, the nominator has essentially withdrawn the nomination in a later comment, stating "sure" about the notion of withdrawal.
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I did the best I could do: the sources I found and added, that's all there is in ten pages of Google results. At best this deserves a paragraph in the article for the first season of SNL; by itself it's not notable.
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- Keep. I'm seeing lots of references, even if we just limit it to books and not other types of sources. More at Find sources:
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Merge - Agreed, there is little here that justifies anything more than a section in the SNL first season article -- if that. Yes, it was a "good sketch" -- but from a WP paradigm, so what? All parties involved quickly realized that it was a poor fit for the show, and the concept was abandoned.
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- Comment: Plenty of references easily available to perform a Quality improvement project on this article. Loads of examples, at: Find sources:
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- Keep I fully agree with guideline
WP:NPOSSIBLE that an article's quality or length or it not using available sources is not a
reason to delete. While certainly any article within these pages could be whittled down and eventually merged somewhere else, that does not BUILD an encyclopedia. While
AFD not intended to force improvements, I believe in
WP:SEP and in my attempts improving this project for its readers (and
I've had some small successes doing so) I would far rather improve something myself or seek other's help in improving if I have weaknesses. I look beyond
present state and instead look toward
WP:POTENTIAL. This topic, spoken of in
|more-than-trivial manner in numerous sources (thank you
Cirt, for always looking beyond an AFD template's fallible "Find sources") is notable per guideline. We improve that which is improvable, for even in its admitting
it is itself imperfect, deletion does not always improve a
growing Wikipedia.
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- Update: Please note --
I've expanded the page with sourced material, and improved its quality greatly. Please visit this updated version of the article to evaluate whether this article should be kept or not on Wikipedia. Thank you, —
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- I've removed this pointer, since the subject of the article is only peripherally related to NYC.
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- Saturday Night Live has been an integral part of the culture of New York City, per
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- Sure.
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