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It feels as if Ogbu ought to be notable, but I failed to find it. The current crop of references is poor, and she fails
WP:BIO. This was copy pasted from an AFC draft, and has been history merged. The draft had not been accepted, though one might consider that to be irrelevant.
FiddleTimtrentFaddleTalk to me23:31, 13 November 2021 (UTC)reply
On the subject of Ogbu's unique contribution to her field, see these quotes:
From the New York Times: Ms. Ogbu’s career ... points to a much broader definition of what an "architect" might be and do.
From Fortune Magazine: Few people are more committed to the importance of cooperating with communities affected by design than Liz Ogbu.
From Architect Magazine, where author John Cary is quoted as saying Liz Ogbu uniquely and bravely uses design to do the hard work of community healing, by acknowledging buried pain and trauma that is too often overlooked.
Per
WP:ARCHITECT, notability is established if an individual is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique. The above references would seem to suggest that this applies to Ogbu. The fact that she is in high demand as an interviewee and speaker at design events and universities around the world seems to confirm that she is regarded as an important figure by her colleagues as well. For a highly selective list, see
[17].
Generalrelative (
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14:45, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Comment: In response the the claims about reliable and useful sourcing, I have created an analysis of the sources that exist in
this permalink your own analysis may vary.
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
For those without access to the New York Times, Ogbu features in two paragraphs of that piece, one of which consists mostly of a long quote. Note that the uniqueness of her career is singled out for mention:
Liz Ogbu, who trained as an architect at the Harvard Graduate School of Design but describes herself as a "designer, social innovator and urbanist," certainly sees it that way. Ms. Ogbu’s career — she has designed shelters for immigrant day laborers and collaborated on a social enterprise that provides safe, hygienic and convenient sanitation to the homes of low-income urban dwellers in Ghana — points to a much broader definition of what an "architect" might be and do.
As she explained to me in an email: "In many ways, architecture is a profession that has been the epitome of the dominant white patriarchy, from most of the celebrated starchitects to the all too frequent obsession with buildings that are better known for the beauty of the object than the quality of life that they enable. I’m black and female; my existence is the exact opposite of that system. So perhaps it is no accident that as I’ve built my own path in this field, I’ve been committed to a design practice that is rooted in elevating the stories of those who have most often been neglected or silenced."Generalrelative (
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14:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep: She has enough coverage and recognition to establish notability. Moreover, she's interesting, unlike some of the notable people who have BLPs.
NightHeron (
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20:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep - Meets
WP:GNG by Fortune, Architectural Magazine and Architectural Record articles. Minor coverage in plenty of other sources, to me, means that only barely passing GNG (with 3 sig cov pieces, one more than the bare minimum for "multiple") is a-okay by me. Also, could very well meet
WP:ARCHITECT 2 (person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique) because her co-creation of what's covered in the Don't Be a Dick section has received a fair amount of coverage.
Samsmachado (
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22:47, 14 November 2021 (UTC)reply
Keep, based on the helpful source assessment table. AFC standards depart significantly from those of the community as a whole and so AFC is best avoided.
Thincat (
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09:48, 15 November 2021 (UTC)reply
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