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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 14:26, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
List of youngest living Catholic bishops
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Similar to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of oldest living Catholic bishops and cardinals, but these are the 100 youngest bishops. Since canon law requires that bishops be at least 35, none of the included men are surprisingly young nor are any surprisingly old. In practice, this is essentially a list of bishops in their 40s.
Fails WP:LISTN and WP:GNG as there's no evidence that 35-50 year-old bishops are treated as a group by reliable sources. It's also arbitrary to limit inclusion to 100 people.
Fails WP:NOTDIRECTORY as these are relatively minor officials within the church, many of whom don't even have Wikipedia pages.
Fails WP:V as there's no way to verify that these are the youngest bishops without exhaustively verifying the age of all ~5000 living bishops. pburka ( talk) 14:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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- Delete with the same rationale as for all other lists of oldest/youngest cross-categorisations. Not encyclopaedic, listcruft. Mccapra ( talk) 18:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Bishops can be appointed as young as 35, so it's not that unique, defining, or notable that 100 of those appointed in the last decade happen to be under 50. Reywas92 Talk 20:18, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Listcruft, as per above. -- Whiteguru ( talk) 21:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Meaningless, as per above. Gentleman wiki ( talk) 22:58, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete essentially per nom. Jclemens ( talk) 01:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Delete Per the nom. The sea of red links in the article say it all about the notability of this random generated cross-categorization. Newshunter12 ( talk) 16:10, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose/Keep - the media constantly portrays Catholic bishops as an old man's club, so a list of relatively younger bishops might be of genuine interest to some readers. The Pburka's argument that the list is unverifiable is incorrect, as Catholic Hierarchy already keeps an up to date list
see here. The several comments saying that the article is full of red links and therefore unneeded ignores the fact that bishops in the Catholic Church and several other denominations are presumed notable per
WP:NBISHOP, so if a few editors are willing to invest a little time that issue can be quickly resolved.
Inter&anthro (
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17:30, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- That essay actually says that many bishops aren't presumed to be notable. It only covers
diocesan bishops and higher ranks.
pburka (
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17:34, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- And all the entries here are either the head bishops or auxiliary bishops of their respective diocese/eparchies, something which is easily verifiable by looking at the references or a simple search online.
Inter&anthro (
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17:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- What references are you referring to? The only references in this list are to canon laws.
pburka (
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18:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- I am referring to the Catholic Hierarchy list which is linked in both my pervious comment and the article. Inter&anthro ( talk) 18:29, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- What references are you referring to? The only references in this list are to canon laws.
pburka (
talk)
18:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- And all the entries here are either the head bishops or auxiliary bishops of their respective diocese/eparchies, something which is easily verifiable by looking at the references or a simple search online.
Inter&anthro (
talk)
17:46, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- That essay actually says that many bishops aren't presumed to be notable. It only covers
diocesan bishops and higher ranks.
pburka (
talk)
17:34, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
- Delete - Bishops by nationality makes sense (especially given the historical relevance of nationality in Church politics) but this cross-categorisation is really quite meaningless. Those particularly noted for being especially old or young (to the point of receiving coverage for it) would be independently notable, and so can have articles crated. St★lwart 111 02:21, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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