The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 11:17, 9 May 2007 (UTC) reply
( AFD1 and AFD2. The arguments by the deletion nominator for the first nomination were extremely weak, as I pointed out in the second AFD, which was much more valid. I carried out the second AFD nomination myself and the list was saved (as no consensus) on a whim at the end by two 'keep' voters who have failed to do anything to improve the article since, and whose arguments were poor ("do we need citations to prove genre in television in 99% of instances?" = WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS), claiming that this songs about homosexuality list could be referenced, but still there is not a single reference or citation in the whole list. It's full of original research, much of it is subjective and littered with personal views. On top of that, it's listcruft, and the subsection "Songs where there is a strong indication the topic is homosexuality or can be interpreted as such" can only be original research. It's a haven for anonymous IP edits from people who probably do not understand how Wikipedia works, as they keep adding their own uncited, originally researched personal ideas of songs that fit into this category, and as such is misleading. Jimbo Wales would not stand for a list like this ("I can NOT emphasize this enough. There seems to be a terrible bias among some editors that some sort of random speculative 'I heard it somewhere' pseudo information is to be tagged with a 'needs a cite' tag. Wrong. It should be removed, aggressively, unless it can be sourced. This is true of all information"). If anyone can find any reliable sources for a reasonably sized list, I'd be quite happy to have this list stay, even if it probably does constitute listcruft. As such, it's a travesty and a textbook example of what Wikipedia is not.- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 16:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC) reply