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The result was keep‎. Owen× ☎ 00:11, 21 May 2024 (UTC) reply

List of movie theaters

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This appears to be an underinclusive and unnecessary duplication of Category:Cinemas and movie theaters by country, which includes many more theaters which are not on this list. I don't believe this page is particularly useful as a stand-alone list. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:32, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
• Delete. This is an absurdly incomplete list. Taking France as an example, the creator seems to think that Paris is all there is in France, unaware that the oldest cinema still in operation after 125 years, is in La Ciotat ( https://edencinemalaciotat.com/le-plus-ancien-cinema-du-monde/). Similar problems apply in other countries, for example Chile, which apparently has just one cinema, though I saw Jurassic Park and The Color Purple in two different ones. Even if the list was made complete it would still be pointless. Athel cb ( talk) 15:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply
  • This is obviously only a list of notable movie theaters that have articles because they are historic or otherwise significant, which is a typical criterion for SALs. It needs some clean-up and is likely missing many, but I don't think we have an article on the oldest theater in La Ciotat so of course it's not on here. Reywas92 ^Talk 16:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

    OK. I failed to notice the qualification "notable enough for Wikipedia articles," but it's still a ridiculous list. You are right that there is no "article on the oldest theater in La Ciotat", but there damn well should be. Athel cb ( talk) 16:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

    Perhaps you could make it? Then we should consider how List of oldest cinemas is not an article, but certainly notable. Conyo14 ( talk) 22:11, 29 April 2024 (UTC) reply

    Perhaps I will, but I'm not sure my knowledge is sufficient. La Ciotat is about 45 minutes drive from where I live (at least, it would be if I still drove significant distances). I've passed the Eden Cinema, but I've never been inside. Athel cb ( talk) 17:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

    I would note that Category:Cinemas and movie theaters by country is, of course, organized by country -- which is how this list is organized too. The difference is that there are a number of cinemas which Wikipedia has articles about, but which are not listed here on List of movie theaters. So this list is trying to fulfill the same function as Category:Cinemas and movie theaters by country, but not as well since it doesn't include all of the movie theaters that already have Wikipedia articles. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep and improve. With some work and dedication it has the potential to be an informative list of historical/notable theaters. Archives908 ( talk) 01:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

  I'm kind of leery of a page like this, though. The amount of work it would need to maintain would be kind of exhausting. I think that a far more manageable option would be for the page to limit itself to something like "oldest movie theater" by country, with the further requirement being that the theater would either have to be still operational OR the building itself would still have to be standing, in the case of a company that's now defunct but the building still stands. Otherwise this is a page that could potentially contain hundreds upon thousands of theaters. It would also be kind of prone to people coming around to list their mini (non-notable) theater as well. I'm not using that as an argument to delete mind you, just say that a page like this needs to be more limited out of necessity to make it more encyclopedic. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 18:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep: Allows an organised overview with photographs and notes, which a category cannot do. - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 11:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC) reply

• Keep and rename to Lists of cinemas: LISTCRUFT with an impossibly broad scope but if renamed it could be a set index for Category:Lists of cinemas.  //  Timothy ::  talk  14:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC) reply
• Keep - Reasonable index/navigational aid which doesn't duplicate a category per WP:NOTDUP. That said, I'm sympathetic to the idea that such a broad list presents a challenge to maintain, but I don't know just how often we get notable individual movie theaters and there's always the possibility of spinning out country-based lists. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:42, 20 May 2024 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.