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The result was merge to Ilanz. Randykitty ( talk) 11:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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No indication why a list of mayors of a minor place (some 2,000 people) would be a notable subject. It is not as if the election of a new mayor here would get any coverage beyond routine reports and very local mentions. Fram ( talk) 07:15, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Switzerland-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 16:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp ( talk) 16:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
- Weak keep It's a list of mayors of an independent municipality which existed for centuries. While many of them will never have articles, some will. I think that based on
WP:NLIST if the head masters of a school can be included, then mayors of a municipality ought to be as well.
Tobyc75 (
talk) 11:39, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think we have separate lists of the headmasters of most schools (we may have for some exceptional schools like Eton, but not in general); the section you link to discusses embedded lists. There are probably hundreds of thousands former communities in Europe, every place in many countries has existed for centuries and had its own mayor. Why would we want to have or allow lists for the mayors of all of these, even if one or two are themselves notable (not for being mayor, but for some other reason)? Should we have
List of mayors of Saint-Georges-des-Groseillers?
Fram (
talk) 12:03, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Would you make a draft for one so we can review and comment? -- 签名 sig at 05:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- If lists are separate or embedded mainly depends on additional content already at Wikipedia for the context. For consistency, I think it is preferable to create them in a similar form. -- 签名 sig at 05:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- I don't think we have separate lists of the headmasters of most schools (we may have for some exceptional schools like Eton, but not in general); the section you link to discusses embedded lists. There are probably hundreds of thousands former communities in Europe, every place in many countries has existed for centuries and had its own mayor. Why would we want to have or allow lists for the mayors of all of these, even if one or two are themselves notable (not for being mayor, but for some other reason)? Should we have
List of mayors of Saint-Georges-des-Groseillers?
Fram (
talk) 12:03, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
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• Gene93k (
talk) 15:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's mainly a "list of office holders", not a general "list of people".
- "lists of people" are generally limited to people actually having articles.
- "lists of office holders" are pointless if we attempt to limit them to people having articles.
- Whether people have articles on English language Wikipedia or not, mainly depends if they are English speaking or not. Furthermore, articles about living politicians seem more frequent in some countries than others (e.g. every mayor of Aliso Viejo has one). Personally, I don't like articles about living politicians that much, but I think it is interesting to be able to see who holds this or that office. Neither is actually a criteria if they could have an article. -- 签名 sig at 05:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- It's mainly a "list of office holders", not a general "list of people".
- Despite the number of people living in its boundaries,
Ilanz is generally considered to be a "
city". It had been the only one within the territory of the
Grey League (1395-1799) and Ilanz is listed as capital of the
Grey League. --
签名 sig at 05:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- The Grey League, which basically existed between 1395 and 1471, after which it became a part of the Three Leagues, with capital Chur. Fot the 1395-1471 period, no mayors are listed. Are they known? Fram ( talk) 15:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I think lists of mayors of cities or towns is a notable subject. The information of who served is verifiable, the list is limited (to a particular class), and the position plays a significant role in the formation of policy is a municipality. This information could be useful to researchers or to residents of the city that want to know more about their history. Enos733 ( talk) 15:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 23:55, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
- Merge to Ilanz. Although the list is potentially long, at the moment it would easily fit. "Mayor of Ilanz" is probably not an independently notable topic. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 10:14, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
- 'Merge for now. Regarded as a town, it is not nearly of the size that would necessarily make all mayors notable (in the US, the usual size in most afd decisions is between 50,000 and 100,000.). I'm not entirely sure to what extent it should be regarded as an independent state, and for what period. It normally was subject or part of some larger jurisdiction. Of course, to the extent it was an independent political entity, every chief executive of it is intrinsically notable. DGG ( talk ) 08:44, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
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