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The result was delete. ✗ plicit 23:48, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
List of mainstream films with skiing scenes
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While the topic of ski films is notable, this seems to be an indiscriminate list and it seems doubtful that the references could justify a list of films that happen to feature a skiing scene. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Film, Sports, and Lists. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 19:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per
WP:DELREASON#14:
Any other content not suitable for an encyclopedia
. Specifically, this is entirely WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This is such a self-evidently misguided idea for an article that I got curious as to how it came about. It should come as no surprise that it was created as an effort to clean up the ski film article of a bunch of poor content that did not belong there by moving it to a different article. Of course, the proper course of action would have been to simply remove the poor content; as the essay WP:CARGO says:Moving bad content into a separate standalone article does not get rid of the bad content.
TompaDompa ( talk) 20:18, 30 May 2023 (UTC) - Strong delete bizarrely arbitrary topic for an article if there ever was one. What about “list of mainstream films with chess-playing scenes”? Or “list of non-Western genre, non-equestrian-sport films to feature horse riding in some form”? Dronebogus ( talk) 10:31, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep but raise the criterion bar to films about these sports and rename
List of skiing and snowboarding films; possibly split in two. Both sports satisfy
WP:NLIST:
"The Best Ski And Snowboard Films Of 2022-23 You May Have Missed" (
Forbes),
13 Movies About Skiing You Absolutely Need to Watch This Winter (Yahoo Sports), etc.
Clarityfiend (
talk)
12:00, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- That would change both the scope/contents and the title, which says something about the lack of viability of the current article. I would suggest that it would be better to start over, based on sources, rather than trying to add sources to a bunch of WP:Original research—the latter approach has a tendency to result in very poor quality articles indeed, just complete messes. If sources discuss the portrayal of skiing in films more than they discuss the films themselves, it might be more appropriate to create an article on skiing in film. Another option might be to cover films about skiing in the already-existing ski film article in a manner similar to how it's done at surf film (if sources do likewise). TompaDompa ( talk) 17:55, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. I don't see how it is encyclopedic to list films where there is a mere few minutes of skiing in it. As mentioned above, a list of films where skiing is the primary focus, would be ok, but not built from this list. Ajf773 ( talk) 02:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE -- TheInsatiableOne ( talk) 09:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. If there is an encyclopedic article such as List of skiing and snowboarding films, then no objection to that being created. But there is nothing encyclopedic and salvageable in this current article. Joseph 2302 ( talk) 10:53, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- I disagree with the non-encyclopedic characterization. There are clearly "ski movies" ( Warren Miller (director)'s output comes to mind), and there are non-"ski movies" where skiing nevertheless plays a significant plot point-- Better Off Dead (film) being one such. Perhaps this would be better off as a category, but I don't know it should be removed entirely. Jclemens ( talk) 00:17, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete as a textbook example of WP:NOTINDISCRIMINATE. Shooterwalker ( talk) 01:57, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
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