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The result was keep. This discussion is a sign that sometimes folks only show up to an AFD discussion after several relistings so they can serve a useful purpose. Liz Read! Talk! 00:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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Appears to be original research. Links mostly reference the official hotel website. We already have List of largest hotels and I don't think the notability for a continental list is quite there. Ajf773 ( talk) 09:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists, Europe, Organizations, Travel and tourism, and .... Ajf773 ( talk) 09:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep At least for this list most of it wouldn't be on the main largest hotel list, which is limited to hotels with >3,000 rooms, and there's no real easy way to ascertain a hotel room count without the hotel group websites, as rooms can often be mothballed and be undercounted from municipal authorities and the like. Both use that sourcing and there's no issue as-is with either. Nate • ( chatter) 21:24, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Articles by continent are not usually seen as violating WP:CROSSCAT.
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- WP:CROSSCAT is not the reason for deletion in this case. It's a case of both notability and original research. Ajf773 ( talk) 09:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Frivolous comment: I read the article title as List of largest holes in Europe :) Geschichte ( talk) 10:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 16:23, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - I think we need to find a consensus. Is it an arbitrary size that "large" is 3,000 or more rooms? Bearian ( talk) 17:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) ( talk) 02:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, agree with nom that NLIST is failed, as none of the sources in the article, nor any I could find in a search, make this grouping. The topic of "largest hotels" is too niche to get multiple articles, unlike e.g. largest cities. Mach61 ( talk) 03:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in
reliable sources.
The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists, which says, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; notable list topics are appropriate for a stand-alone list." I will show below that "autobiographies" has been treated as a "a group or set by independent reliable sources".
Sources- M, Patrick (2023-08-21).
"Top 5 Largest Hotels in Europe". Construction Review. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-25. Retrieved 2024-02-25.
The article notes:
Of the total hotels in Europe, here are the top 5 largest. The list is based on the number of rooms.
- The Izmailovo Hotel in Russia (5,000 rooms)
- Barkhatnye Sezony Sportivny Kvartal in Russia (4,688 rooms)
- The Cosmos Hotel in Russia (1777 rooms)
- The Royal National Hotel in England (1630 rooms)
- The Gothia Towers in Sweden (1200 rooms)
- Tuin, Christel (2015-02-27).
"Dit zijn de 5 grootste hotels van Europa" [These are the 5 largest hotels in Europe]. Hospitality Management (in Dutch). Uitgeverij PS. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-25. Retrieved 2024-02-25.
According to this page from the publisher Internet Archive, Hospitality Management is a Dutch trade magazine for the hotel industry that is published eight times a year.
Cunard ( talk) 10:33, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Construction Review appears to be unreliable Mach61 ( talk) 17:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- M, Patrick (2023-08-21).
"Top 5 Largest Hotels in Europe". Construction Review. Archived from
the original on 2024-02-25. Retrieved 2024-02-25.
- Keep per Cunard. Georgethedragonslayer ( talk) 13:19, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Per above. The article is properly referenced, which rules out being an essay. Svartner ( talk) 14:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
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