The result was keep, but the pointy name change should probably be undone. Jayjg (talk) 02:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC) reply
Which 2 websites? Perhaps it may not warrant deletion, but boy does this one need help! Wuh Wuz Dat 20:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC) reply
More generally, the AfD process needs to be limited severely, or even abolished entirely. Under present circumstances, article deletion - and the expenditure of effort to preserve articles from deletion - are seriously impairing the usefulness of Wikipedia. All too often, articles that I seek out for information turn out to be redlinked (sometimes even WP:SALTed), or in the middle of a deletion debate (as here).
Personally, I would be far more willing to expend efforts trying to find solutions to problems with an article if I knew that the article itself, at least (as opposed to my specific contributions to it), could be protected forever from deletion. Every unjustified AfD, even if it fails, is a slap in the face to every non-insider who would like to contribute to Wikipedia.
I have read it. Where do you think I got the quote from? The reason why I believe the article is not repairable is because the bad references and associated data make up 99% of it. I find that kind of article useful... But so far it represents more of a threat than a treat to the knowledge-thirsty reader. If you can prove me wrong, please do so, and I'll even help you in improving this article. I have already offered various solutions, all requiring either split or major revamp, but unfortunately were discarded or went unnoticed, with editors' energy being spent on 'frivolous' things. Ren ✉ 05:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC) reply