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Comment: Ninth? Really? I guess I need to read the other 8 (but not right now). In the meantime I'll say that I'd like to find a way to keep this but obviously I also hate indiscriminate lists. Is there a way we can get clear inclusion criteria on it? e.g. Two different rock solid RS references calling it one of the "worst of all time", "worst of the decade" or "worst of its genre" (for common genres only) or three different rock solid RS references calling it the "worst of the year". They would need to be serious criticism by serious critics, not just jokey side comments. I'm not saying those exact rules are what we want, just that maybe we could agree something with that degree of specificity and hold the line on it? Anyway, I'll give my proper !vote later, once I have read the old AfDs. --
DanielRigal (
talk)
22:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep This is the ninth attempt to delete this article, but the last AfD was in 2011 and consensus can change over time. However, I believe that the arguments from previous AfDs still stand. The topic of worst movies ever made is clearly notable and passes
WP:GNG. It has been the subject of dozens of books, hundreds of polls and thousands of news articles. This doesn't fail
WP:LSC and isn't
WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Criteria (that a film must be called the worst ever by multiple
WP:RS) is much clearer today than it was during the previous AfDs, as a matter of fact there's a thread on the talk page right now that argues that it's too strict. There's even a
list of films removed from the article.
LM2000 (
talk)
23:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Comment I agree with the comment above - if there's a way we can save this list, I think it's worth it. In-depth, well-sourced material that doesn't look like
WP:OR (at least on its face). Certainly doesn't seem like
WP:LISTCRUFT either.
Comatmebro (
talk)
23:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep, for as long as the entries are universally agreed upon by notable critics, scholars and the like to be the worst ever made, rather than just a mere list of things added out of blind contempt by random Wikipedia editors.
Blake Gripling (
talk)
02:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep That a film is considered "worst" by critics and the press, makes it de facto notable. One of my favorite films
Ed Wood (film), directed by
Tim Burton, which became a box office bomb and won two Academy Awards, was about a film considered "Worst Film Ever". I see that the items of the list have been carefully selected to be exactly what the title indicates, and properly sourced, so it is not an indiscriminate list. Also, do not rename as per Power~enwiki. The title is in line with the
List of films considered the best.
HoverfishTalk16:39, 12 July 2017 (UTC)reply
Keep - Come on, 8 failed nominations and an active discussion on the talk page preferring "inclusion criteria setup" over deletion wasn't enough to deter this nomination? There's a precedent for these sorts of articles to exist. Efforts should go towards cleanup instead.
Sergecross73msg me18:33, 12 July 2017 (UTC)reply
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