The result was no consensus. A fair contingent of editors seem to believe that a list is a viable option here, and as such deletion does not seem the optimal outcome: lists and categories can co-exist, and particularly if improved this one may provide additional useful information. I would strongly advise that some thought is put into how this list can be made into more than a duplicate of a category - most of the keep arguments are rather theoretical in nature, and if this is to be kept in the long term the theoretical arguments need to be turned into actual improvements. Ultimately, this debate has been dragging on for a long, long time and it has to end somewhere: there is no sign of a consensus forming either way. ~ mazca talk 01:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC) reply