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Comment. But many of the awards listed her are WP-notable awards with their on WP articles? I don't see how deleting a list article about a WP-notable film studio (it has its own WP-article), which has many WP-notable awards, meets any form of
WP:PAG? In that case, there are thousands of WP film awards lists that can be AfD'ed.
Britishfinance (
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11:10, 26 March 2019 (UTC)reply
But this is a film-studio and not just an NCORP. We have lots of WP seperate list articles for film awards. Many of these awards have their own WP articles? I don't see the clear
WP:PAG that is been broken here; in fact, per my comments below, deleting this would violate WP:PAG?
Britishfinance (
talk)
11:12, 26 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment. So because the list includes some -WP notable awards, amongst the many WP-notable awards, you would deleted the whole article? AfD is not clean up, and such issues should be discussed on the Talk Page. That is flawed logic and certainly not consistent with any
WP:PAG that I am aware of.
Britishfinance (
talk)
11:17, 26 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. I cannot see this as being a full delete as there are a lot of WP-notable awards being listed here (which are also part of
WP:PORNBIO):
AVN Award,
XBIZ and
XRCO Awards. A full delete therefore makes no sense. I could see the rationale for a Merge per
bd2412 (although somebody then needs to do it, and this list is very long, so it would distort the main
Girlfriends Films article), but certainly not a Redirect, as it would hide lots of WP-notable material?
I still don't see how this fails
WP:LISTN (and no "delete" above has explained it). Per
WP:LISTN, this list is a "complex and cross-categorization lists (such as "Lists of X of Y")", which are acceptable under LISTN as
Girlfriends Films (i.e. "X") is WP-notable, and so are many of the awards
AVN Award (i.e. "Y"). If there are non WP-notable awards then it can be discussed on the Talk Page but it is not an AfD concern (e.g. AfD is not clean up); however I can point to thousands of WP List articles where not all the items in the list have WP articles.
Britishfinance (
talk)
11:07, 26 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment. Just to clarify, of the five classes of awards that
Girlfriends Films have been nominated/won in their LIST only one is possibly, a non-notable award class:
Either the WP-community should come out clearly and state that it does not want PORN-related articles, OR, the WP-community needs to clarify that despite the !votes, WP PORN-related articles that meet
WP:PAG must not be deleted. Otherwise, we (and I), are wasting our time quoting
WP:PAG at AfD on porn-related articles?
Britishfinance (
talk)
12:12, 26 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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