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The result was keep. signed, Rosguill talk 02:26, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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WP:NOTDATA, WP:MILL. There’s a lot of Italian Americans on TV and there’s no point in exhaustively listing them with no meaningful context about their portrayal and significance. It also seems to be a case of WP:GREATWRONGS since the only details provided are either negative/unflattering character traits or occupations that are usually stereotypes— basically WP:OR cherrypicking for an implicit case that TV depicts Italian Americans negatively. Dronebogus ( talk) 09:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Lists. Dronebogus ( talk) 09:05, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Italy, and United States of America. – LaundryPizza03 ( d c̄) 22:12, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Almost entirely unsourced, indiscriminate list; the associated
Category:Fictional Italian American people contains 112 pages, but not this one. –
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- Anyone can add anything to a category. I just added it there. The fact someone forgot to do it before doesn't mean anything. It is not indiscriminate since it list the specific requirements to be added at the top of the article. Dream Focus 14:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep A valid information and navigational list, far more useful than the category for this since it offers far more information and helps people find what they are looking for. Only notable entries exist. The start of the article even says the requirements to be listed. To be included in this list, the character should be a main or frequently recurring character in a television series, and should have an article or section in Wikipedia. The character should be described as Italian-American in the text or categories. Dream Focus 14:35, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗ plicit 12:33, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - per Dream Focus. KatoKungLee ( talk) 17:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:12, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Meets WP:NLIST, the list topic is notable (eg [1] [2] etc), the list is curated with clear inclusion criteria. And my own personal litmus, deleting this would make the encyclopedia worse. — siro χ o 11:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Dream Focus and siroxo above. No NLIST issue, and doesn't seem to be anywhere near being a NOTDATA issue either. -- Visviva ( talk) 21:52, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Classifying people by national/ethnic origin is widespread on WP and AFAIK nobody has serious suggested that should be stopped. These are notable characters, there are clear membership criteria, it should be possible to reference their status (probably less controversially than for actual people). A lot of the reasons for deletion seem irrelevant, and even if it's cherry-picked to show bad characters (is Joey Tribbiani that awful?), it can be fixed by editing and adding more entries. -- Colapeninsula ( talk) 10:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep per Dream Focus meets WP:NLIST. Pharaoh of the Wizards ( talk) 10:18, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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