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The result was merge to College Basketball on ABC#Commentators. Liz Read! Talk! 22:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
List of College Basketball on ABC personalities
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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and the ESPN now redirects to the main page, neither doing anything to establish notability. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Television, and Basketball. SpacedFarmer ( talk) 21:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
DeleteMerge to College Basketball on ABC: Subject does not meet the WP:LISTN since as the nom notes as the individuals listed here are not covered as a group in secondary sources. A WP:BEFORE check didn't come up with any sources to improve the article. Edit: Changing my vote to merge as a WP:ATD. Let'srun ( talk) 22:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)- Keep: Sources are being added to this particular article at this very moment to further strengthen its notability. This is a work in progress of course, but at the very least, take into consideration, merging the this article with the main College Basketball on ABC article as a secondary option instead of out and out junking it. BornonJune8 ( talk) 12:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to College Basketball on ABC#Personalities as an WP:ATD. This article is WP:LISTCRUFT with mainly WP:ROUTINE sourcing or WP:BLOG posts, fit for the fandom wiki. Conyo14 ( talk) 05:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Since this particular AFD was put into place, over 20 sources have been added. Of course, there could and should be more, but naturally, 20 is a huge leap and jump from the five that was initially there.
BornonJune8 (
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09:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate the addition of some reliable sourcing though I still feel as a list, it is not covered under
WP:LISTN.
Conyo14 (
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23:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Concur. I'd advise BornonJune8 of WP:REFBOMBING. Let'srun ( talk) 23:29, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate the addition of some reliable sourcing though I still feel as a list, it is not covered under
WP:LISTN.
Conyo14 (
talk)
23:13, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:56, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. A few things here: I want to quickly address some of the arguments presented by the nominator. WP:NOTTVGUIDE is a policy that relates to current and upcoming events/programming, so I wouldn't really consider this to be applicable here as it is a combination of past and present television personalities. From a spot check of individuals on the list, standalone articles about the subjects included on this list are notable and meet WP:NBIO. Of course, this does not inherently make the list itself notable, especially one that is standalone. Lists (not necessarily standalone) of this type have held water before (quick examples would include NBC evening news anchors and ABC evening news anchors) with the same rationale that we tend retain lists of notable persons that have a notable trait in common. This goes beyond being simply an indiscriminate database, but is a significant compilation of an important aspect of the underlying subject, in this case, the television program College Basketball on ABC. As a result, deletion altogether would be a disservice the extent of knowledge one can gain regarding the television program. Regardless of the numerous sources added since time of nomination, I concur with the nominator that this article fails to meet the criteria of WP:NLIST for a standalone list. To retain the inline citations, per WP:AOAL, combined with the above, merging this list as suggested by Conyo14 ( talk · contribs) seems be the best course of action. Bgv. ( talk) 02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep, Delete or Merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Comment Changed my vote to merge per the previous comment. Let'srun ( talk) 19:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
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