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The result was keep. The article has been significantly
expanded since the nomination and initial delete votes; with no further arguments being made to delete in the last 5 days. If canvassing has affected this discussion, its primary result appears to have been a significant improvement in the article's content and sourcing. ~
mazcatalk16:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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Reply: Simplifying the maintenance process would be a reasonable if there were many pages to maintain. However, the number of active candidates is quite limited, and the number of top tier candidates is even more limited. This candidate is a finalist for what is, unfortunately, the most important democratic contest in the world; this means the content is both notable and globally relevant. If this article is delisted then all candidates endorsements pages should be redirects.
Harmlesshumanist (
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03:22, 4 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Delete or Redirect for the reasons stated above. I do question whether these lists of endorsements are generally worthy of a Wikipedia article generally as Wikipedia is not a repository of campaign material, but as long as they are properly sourced, there is no inherent harm to the project and could have some lasting historical value. --
Enos733 (
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03:47, 29 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete This is an unjustified content fork, but we do not need to list this either, only cover ones that have gotten substantial notice in the main article on Yang.
John Pack Lambert (
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17:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep The article has numerous endorsements and citations from reliable sources. Regarding what others have said about this article not likely to expand further, I remind people
WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. Quite frankly, the page is not some trivial article listing single digit endorsements. There are 39 endorsements and 31 citations at the time of my comment and I highly doubt this this the full list. If you want to delete this page, then the argument simply because that the other candidates' endorsement pages are longer doesn't fly. We don't go on article length here, we go on substance. If we want to delete this article then we should also delete the other candidates' endorsement articles as well.
Transcendence (
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19:36, 3 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep Remember that deletion is a last resort. Valid deletion nominations rarely improve articles, and deletion should not be used as a way to improve an article, or a reaction to a bad article. It is appropriate for articles which cannot be improved. Clearly this article was able to be improved and has been. Unfortunately, this feels like a politically motivated nomination for deletion. The good news is that the article was improved and is now clearly surpassing the standards required by Wikipedia. --
Brandorr (
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20:08, 3 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment - There is no
canvassing going on. The Reddit post is a call to the community to update an outdated page which is in line with Wikipedia. There is no spreading of political messages nor promotion of the Democratic Candidate. The endorsements listed on this Wiki page are supposed to be cited from reliable sources. As long as it meets those criteria, I do not consider it as canvassing. In case endorsements are inappropriately referenced, I think that particular endorsement should be deleted. --
Stoepkrijtske (
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21:00, 3 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Keep - This article has now been updated significantly with both content and reliable citations since its proposed deletion on 28-12-19 and should meet Wikipedia notability guidelines. This topic also has a large amount of coverage so it can be improved and updated in the future.
Edi7*(
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📜)01:38, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
Strong Keep/Comment - I would not categorize the recent edits as "canvassing" since the reddit post in question is well-intentioned and suggests its users to only contribute if they can make quality edits. It also urges its users to follow the rules and cite properly. I would also point out that
WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL and that as a subject becomes more popular, there are much higher chances people write a wikipedia page about it. See
Wikipedia:Notability. Nothing stops other supporters from creating a page for their candidate of choice. If neutrality and objectivity is maintained, there is no reason to delete this page.
Wiki-asd-97 (
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05:01, 5 January 2020 (UTC)reply
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