- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus here is that being degree-granting is insufficient; you also need to be accredited. -- RoySmith (talk) 22:44, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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Non-notable chiropractic college, the article reads as a WP:COATRACK because the only mainstream coverage has been in respect of the school's promotion of anti-vaccination charlatan Andrew Wakefield. Guy ( Help!) 11:19, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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- Delete. Their only notability appears to be in relation to Andrew Wakefield, well-known for his fraudulent research paper. If this is true, it's sufficient to include the school in Wakefield's article and, indeed, it is already mentioned there. Note that there may be other reasons why this school is notable, even though no reasons are asserted at this time in the article. Note that the article was originally a copyright violation created by an editor with an undisclosed conflict of interest. -- Yamla ( talk) 12:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep as a degree-granting institution per longstanding precedent and consensus. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 08:51, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note that Necrothesp is almost certainly accurate that most such articles are kept. --
Yamla (
talk)
12:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- True, but this does not exempt it from the need for sourcing, per
WP:Golden rule, and I would note that while it may award degrees, they are not actually accredited, so they are not real degrees.
Guy (
Help!)
13:21, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nice catch. This appears to be the official list of accredited schools in California:
[1]. Life Chiropractic
claims to be accredited by two sources, but neither of these are official accreditation sources in California. --
Yamla (
talk)
13:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks. Years of dealing with Christian degree mills has made me deeply cynical about accreditation: the longer an institution's accreditation page, the less likely it is that it is actually accredited. This is no exception. Compare with this masterpiece of brevity. You can always check at CHEA. Guy ( Help!) 19:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Nice catch. This appears to be the official list of accredited schools in California:
[1]. Life Chiropractic
claims to be accredited by two sources, but neither of these are official accreditation sources in California. --
Yamla (
talk)
13:50, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- True, but this does not exempt it from the need for sourcing, per
WP:Golden rule, and I would note that while it may award degrees, they are not actually accredited, so they are not real degrees.
Guy (
Help!)
13:21, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Note that Necrothesp is almost certainly accurate that most such articles are kept. --
Yamla (
talk)
12:04, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild ( talk) 12:29, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Davewild ( talk) 12:29, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Strongly agree with cogent analysis by Yamla, above. Cheers, — Cirt ( talk) 18:03, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable diploma mill, article is a WP:COATRACK, one source is the subject's own publication, the other two refer to the coatracked event, trivially mentioning the venue. Web searches turn up trivial mentions, press releases and social media. Fails all guidelines. Kraxler ( talk) 16:51, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Looking at the versions in the history, it is a degree- granting college; it makes no extravagant claims for accreditation, and the copyvio description of the college could simply have been rewritten rather than removing it, turning the article into nonsense (more precisely, into a coatrack about anti-vaccination) , and then nominating it for deletion. An organization's website is a perfectly reliable source for routine information about it, and every college article we have relies in large part upon them. DGG ( talk ) 03:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, non-accredited institutions (ie: diploma mills) are not really "degree-granting institutions" in any meaningful way. Or, to use the logic above, could I set up a "university" in my garage and be guaranteed notability because I hand out "Master of Awesomeness" degrees for a fiver? No reliable or substantial sources that discuss this place in any way that could get it over the WP:GNG either, as far as I can tell. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 11:33, 20 July 2015 (UTC).
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