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The result was keep. Modussiccandi ( talk) 15:14, 18 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Leo Braudy (art dealer)

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Fails WP:NBIO by the looks of it. Couldn't find any relevant results for "Leo Braudy" + "Capital Art Advisory" or "art dealer". Searching his name alongside Stephen Sacklarian and found this [1] piece from the Armenian National Committee of America but it's probably not enough to meet SIGCOV. The sources in the article are linked to the subject.

Note: he shares the name with a USC professor. KH-1 ( talk) 06:45, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Arts. KH-1 ( talk) 06:45, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply
• Keep - I found sources that state the subject, in the footsteps of his grandparents and through the company they founded, supports and promotes elite arts in the Washington, D.C. area as well as the Smithsonian. Reliable sources back up statements in the article. The article needs expanding - I did some work, but it needs more. But with its existing sources, notability has been shown and it meets guidelines for WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. - AuthorAuthor ( talk) 10:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Which source? You haven't added any other than the one I mentioned above from anca.org.- KH-1 ( talk) 10:51, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Found and added additional source from Armenian Weekly (armenianweekly.com), which also covers the sale of Sacklarian's paintings in 2018 and references Braudy as "exclusive representative" of the artist's estate. I agree with User:AuthorAuthor, I believe the sources show Braudy appears to pass the guidelines for WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. - 20thCenturyArtEnthusiast ( talk) 19:33, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Again, that's the source that I've already mentioned. It's one potential evidence of secondary coverage, but it's not enough to meet NBIO.- KH-1 ( talk) 23:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Yes, it does appear he shares the same name as Leo Braudy (USC Professor). If Leo Braudy (art dealer) gets approved, should Leo Braudy be moved to a disambiguation page? And current Leo Braudy moved to Leo Braudy (professor)? 20thCenturyArtEnthusiast ( talk) 19:34, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Source summary

1. Glass.net - official website. Not independent of subject or evidence of SIGCOV.
2. Capitalartadvisory.com - official website. Not independent of subject or evidence of SIGCOV. .
3. Hillel International News - Not independent (co-authored by subject)
4. Glass.net - official website - Not independent of subject or evidence of SIGCOV.
5. Heritage Florida Jewish News - Not independent (co-authored by subject)
6. Capitalartadvisory.com - official website. Not independent of subject or evidence of SIGCOV.
7. Anca.org - secondary coverage. Mentioned in 2 paragraphs as the representative of Sacklarian. Debatable whether this constitutes as SIGCOV
8. Smithsonian - list of donors, not SIGCOV. Even if his family are significant donors, it doesn't confer notability to Leo.
9. WaPo - obituary for his mother.

There is, as far as I can tell, little to no third party coverage of this person.- KH-1 ( talk) 11:09, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Weak delete I thought Glass Art Gallery might be notable and a possible merger target if I created a stub, but it doesn't appear to be either and like the others I can't find in depth coverage. Star Mississippi 13:27, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  I agree. I assume you're referring to GlassArt.net? I was on the fence too, but couldn't find much coverage other than their website. It seems that Braudy himself is notable via his family and association with Sacklarian, but not Glass Art Gallery. Capital Art Advisory is redlinked, I thought and could be notable due to it's apparent relationship with Braudy and Stephen Sacklarian, but I could not find much third party info on that either. BigFish3387 ( talk) 20:54, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  Yes. The sourcing that I found and even their own site are inconsistent in name/brand. I would assume that if Braudy is kept it would he helpful to the reader to discuss all three together since they're connected Star Mississippi 01:32, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

  That is a good point. Just added his ownership of GlassArt.net in the bio as well. 20thCenturyArtEnthusiast ( talk) 17:58, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

• Keep - Found and added sources the arts philanthropy of Braudy's family, of Sacklarian artworks to various museums. Appears Braudy's notability comes from his association with the Furman family, which appears to be notable from their philanthropic art activities. And from his management of Sacklarian's works. Both appear to be documented with third party independent sources. Looks like Braudy passes WP:NBIO. After the additional sources, including recent ones from ANCA ( Armenian National Committee of America) and Armenian Weekly, notability and SIGCOV seems pretty established. - BigFish3387 ( talk) 20:55, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Still no concrete evidence of SIGCOV. What's the best WP:THREE? Note that the ANCA ref is a reproduction of the Armenian Weekly article.- KH-1 ( talk) 23:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC) reply

It seems to me that ANCA ( Armenian National Committee of America) reposting the article would still count as SIGCOV? Because the Armenian Weekly article seemed to be noteworthy enough for ANCA to repost to their audience.

But for WP:THREE, I agree counting ANCA/Armenian Weekly as one source makes sense, since it is the same information. BigFish3387 ( talk) 18:19, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

This had me thinking: A lot of art publications are printed and widely circulated in the art world, but don't go online. I've noticed other artists, dealers, and galleries cite print sources. Like I see the Martin Lawrence Galleries (huge gallery chain with locations all over the U.S.) cite " Sarah Seamark, Art World News, November 2007." Going to the Art World News Website website I notice that their archive of publications only goes back to 2016, so MLG must be referencing a print version.

I live in NYC, this weekend I'm going to go to the NYPL (I'm in grad school so always in the library anyways lol) and will see if I can find any art publications referencing Leo Braudy specifically.

In addition to print magazine archives and auction records, there are books that come out yearly with notable galleries, dealers, and artists, meant mainly for industry professionals. I'm going to see if I find reference material in one of these sources to give Braudy a chance at a stronger case of WP:THREE. BigFish3387 ( talk) 18:28, 10 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Added an additional article from an Armenian print publication about Braudy and the release of Sacklarian paintings in 2018. Seems like this event is now pretty well documented. BigFish3387, interested if you find anything else about Braudy in your library searching. Ideally about something besides the 2018 Sacklarian painting release event. 20thCenturyArtEnthusiast ( talk) 06:05, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Print sources found - Found four print publications about Braudy:

1. The Asbarez article, which I see got added recently.
2. The Forward (Jewish publication) article, about young Jews in the arts. 18 young professionals are covered (in no apparent particular order), Braudy is number 14. He discusses his general background (birth year, university, his two art businesses, and being brought up Jewish in the DC area).
3. Art In America article, about dealing art online during Covid. Braudy is one of four online dealers the writer mentions and quotes from. Braudy claims to have done more business in 2020 than 2019 due to being more “online ready” than his competitors, and believes 2021 will continue to be better.
4. American Art Collector article, on art dealers and advisors, Braudy is quoted, saying “The Internet has allowed art advisors to flourish, because they are not longer restricted to clientele in their city of business. Anybody could advise anybody, in theory.”

Braudy might actually have a decent WP:THREE case. Personally, I would choose:

1. ANCA.org ( Armenian National Committee of America) article, repost about 2018 Sacklarian release from Armenian Weekly (I think ANCA.org repost is the most SIGCOV of all the articles I found on Sacklarian release, relatively wide reach to Armenian American community)
2. The Forward print article. Widely circulated Jewish publication, and devotes 2 paragraphs exclusively to Braudy.
3. Art In America article. It seems a tossup between American Art Collector and Art In America, because American Art Collector focuses on Braudy a bit more, but I would still say Art In America is a better WP:THREE source because it is a more widely read publication. - BigFish3387 ( talk) 21:14, 11 June 2022 (UTC) reply

I think there's a misunderstanding here. SIGCOV refers to the depth of the analysis, not the distribution/reach of the publication. I don't have access to any of those publications so I can't really make a comment either way. I'll leave it for others to decide.- KH-1 ( talk) 07:01, 14 June 2022 (UTC) reply

Keep - Above sources seem to show SIGCOV and WP:NBIO credibility for Braudy. The above WP:THREE from BigFish3387 looks good to me. - 20thCenturyArtEnthusiast ( talk) 23:35, 12 June 2022 (UTC) reply

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