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The result was delete. Randykitty ( talk) 13:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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Inadequately referenced WP:BLP of a person notable only for holding political office at the county level. This is not a level of office that automatically confers guaranteed inclusion rights on every officeholder under WP:NPOL, the way serving in Congress or a state legislature would -- but the article is not referenced anywhere near well enough to get him over WP:GNG, as two of its four footnotes are primary sources that do not support notability at all, while the other two are simply the routine local election coverage that any newly elected county councillor anywhere could always show in their local media. To make somebody notable at the county level of political office, it's not enough to just verify that he exists -- it requires a depth and range and volume of coverage that marks him out as a special case who's significantly more notable than most other county councillors. Bearcat ( talk) 22:53, 4 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 22:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Illinois-related deletion discussions. Bearcat ( talk) 22:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC) reply

• Keep This is a misguided suggestion for several reasons. Most other present and former members of the 17 member Cook County Board of Commissioners, including the predecessor to this commissioner, have their own articles; not only is it the governing body for the second largest county in the United States, the districts that these members represent are larger in population than state legislative districts in Illinois. Additionally, this individual is notable for several reasons, including being the first-ever openly LGBT member of this governing body and its youngest. He has received significantly more press than other members of the body who have their own pages, which is a feat in the Chicago media market that often does not cover county commissioner races or individual commissioners. This article should be kept. Jmkp1955 ( talk) 00:12, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

Firstly, his predecessor has an article for being the state-level chair of an entire political party, not for being a county commissioner per se — so the fact that he has an article does not reify into an inclusion freebie for everybody else on the county council, because the county council isn't his main notability claim.

Secondly, neither being the first LGBT person to hold an otherwise non-notable office nor being the youngest person to hold an otherwise non-notable office are notability freebies either. If the office isn't a clean NPOL pass in and of itself, such as a seat in the state legislature or Congress, then his age and his membership in an underrepresented minority group aren't things that automatically make him special.

Thirdly, this article isn't showing evidence that he's "received significantly more press than other members of this body" — it's citing just two pieces of media coverage, which is not an unusual or unexpected volume. It isn't even a fraction of the sourcing that John Fritchey is citing, for example.

Fourthly, just like Tim Schneider, many of the people in Category:Members of the Cook County Board of Commissioners have articles for other reasons besides the county council per se, such as going on to serve in the state legislature and/or in Congress. On a random spot check of five other articles just now, the only other one I could find that was positing Cook County council as the subject's only notability claim was created just a couple of days before this was, and will also be listed for deletion as soon as I'm done typing this comment. Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS — if there are other articles that are equivalent to this, in that the county council is the main notability claim and the sourcing isn't showing strong evidence that they're special, then that doesn't mean this has to be kept, it means those other articles have to be deleted. We can only delete stuff if and when we catch it, so the existence of any article is never prima facie grounds for the creation of any other: each article has to directly satisfy our inclusion criteria on its own, and comparing it to any other article gets you nowhere fast. Bearcat ( talk) 01:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply

• Keep Bearcat- I believe Jmkp1955 has now been able to address your concerns regarding the entry on Kevin B. Morrison (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) with the subsequent changes to the article, including the national coverage he received during his 2018 campaign. -- Orestek ( talk) 15:18, 5 December 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete County commissioners are rarely notable, and he is no exception. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 02:25, 7 December 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom, doesn't pass WP:NPOL and sourcing is all about his run for local office. SportingFlyer talk 04:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC) reply
• delete Another among a bunch of articles created on Cook County commissioners. That's not a position which passes WP:NPOL. All of the coverage is the usual local reporting on elections and his age and/or sexuality don't impact his notability. The fact that other commissioners may have articles does not mean all county commissioners deserve them, per WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Sandals1 ( talk) 18:36, 10 December 2018 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom. -- 1l2l3k ( talk) 04:32, 11 December 2018 (UTC) reply

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