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Article doesn’t cite any sources so that’s red flag number one. In trying to find sources... nothing validates any claim in this article and nothing written about her goes beyond a paragraph at most or the links are dead. My Dutch skills are primitive but I know what I read.
Trillfendi (
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06:35, 25 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep I agree this article has a current issue of not using good sources but checking with google news it seems there are plenty of RS about the subject that could be used. In general if issues with an article can be improved, it shouldn't be deleted. Sources are primarily in Dutch though which may be why they aren't being used currently.
Rab V (
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22:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Could you explain what you mean by no value to Wikipedia? I looked up some English info about a few of the publishers and they seemed fine to be used for RS.
Rab V (
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23:28, 27 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Relationship gossip. Sexual escapades. A club appearance. It’s no coincidence that other language translation articles also have 0 sources, including the Dutch one. People may try to make notability out of “she was the trans woman on Big Brother 18 years ago” but there’s not even any significant coverage that goes into that. Appearance doesn’t equal notability.
Trillfendi (
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23:55, 27 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Once again, these “sources” are not reliable they are tabloids and still offer absolutely no verification of any statement in this article (hence why it remians unsourced).
Trillfendi (
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22:59, 29 January 2019 (UTC)reply
Redirect to
Big Brother (Dutch TV series)? Besides that she doesn't appear to have done much of note. The best English-language source I could find online was
this, and while I can't say for the Dutch-language sources, if it's just "celebrity gossip" then I hardly think that makes for a credible claim of notability. For what it's worth I do have a print source from an English magazine, but I still don't think that's enough.
PC78 (
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11:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: 1 !vote for each of delete, keep, and redirect -> need more discussion
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
DannyS712 (
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00:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Feel free to count my !vote as delete. I don't feel that the article or its edit history are worth preserving given the complete lack of reliable sources, though I do think that once deleted the page should be recreated as a valid redirect to
Big Brother (Dutch season 3).
PC78 (
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01:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. Complete lack of independent sources. Add sourced content about her at
Big_Brother_(Dutch_TV_series) yes, but nothing here is reliably sourced. Also, the actual content here speaks to her non-notability. " the most prominent transsexual person in the Netherlands who rose to fame after competing" in some TV show. Rose to fame? What fame?? "Competed" in a TV show? Didn't even win. Possibly she has a fan base. Sources? " revived her music career "? "appearing in over six television shows"? "established a website "? "Other ventures ... however, was not very successful at the box office." --
SmokeyJoe (
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10:19, 22 February 2019 (UTC)reply
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