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The result was delete. Feel free to create a redirect from this page title. Liz Read! Talk! 03:19, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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There are many low-power TV stations in the United States that are little more than channels for rent with lower-tier national digital multicast services. This is a great example of such. Many of these lack any history or coverage, let alone significant coverage to meet the GNG. They should be redirects either to a list of stations owned by the company or a list of stations in a given state.
We have a lot of articles on stations of this type (especially LPTVs established in the last 10 years), so the eventual redirect carnage can and likely will pile up. Their programming can be verified to RabbitEars, so a listing in a state or company article can at least have a reference, but a standalone article is not justified under any circumstances. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Missouri. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete No information other than the FCC license file. There is nothing else for GNG to be found. Oaktree b ( talk) 02:22, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete To be very blunt, there’s very little chance you’ll ever get any coverage from reliable sources on these stations. Not only should types of articles be put on a list, it might be a good idea to establish some sort of GNG criteria for low-power stations.
- To wit, I did make something out of WOHZ-CD a few months ago even though it was literally the bare minimum of material I could possibly muster. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 03:56, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Barely any sources, fails WP:GNG. Belichickoverbrady ( talk) 18:31, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Delete We really need a cruft-free 'List of HC2 television stations' for this company's stations which just serve a small range area and have no local presence or history whatsoever, including its infamous station IDs created in PowerPoint and inserted crudely without care. As is now though, this is a station broadcasting to few (and Estrella honestly probably doesn't even know they have a station in St. Louis now), carrying programming of little interest to the community which likely doesn't even know this station exists, the same as nearby W29CI-D. Nate • ( chatter) 02:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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MrSchimpf It looks like
DTV America exists, so there's a starting point. But it's probably quite out of date.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
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05:36, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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Sammi Brie and
MrSchimpf: The table in that article needs cleanup and scoping, but you could replace the “notes” column with Facility ID, transmitter coords and the LMS links (along with a RabbitEars cite) and that should be enough to handle the vast majority of these articles. (Heck, the lone non-RabbitEars cite for
WQDI-LD about the
Cheddar—Dunkin’ Donuts doesn’t really belong there as it was a national promotion.)
Nathan Obral • he/him •
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16:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sandboxed the table at
User:Nathan_Obral/DTV_America so the info can be updated that way. :)
Nathan Obral • he/him •
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17:19, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you...I'll look at it and see if this will fit; the issue is this company has three-four names so we have to figure out a proper title to place it on (I'm bending more towards Innovate Corp. as it's the most current).
Nate • (
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21:59, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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MrSchimpf The main concern I have with shoehorning it into the Innovate Corp. article is that it is set to be quite a long list.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
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23:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- @ MrSchimpf and Sammi Brie: At this point, it **has** to be a list article. I imported this table from RabbitEars which has ALL the stations sorted out by DMA and am slowly trying to reconcile it all ( Mvcg66b3r is helping out with this). I put in an intro saying "this is a list of all stations owned by Innovate under either HC2 or DTV..." that's similar to the list of stations for Gray or Nexstar or Sinclair. Chances are this table could be ... 120K bites at least. Nathan Obral • he/him • t • c • 03:52, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
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MrSchimpf The main concern I have with shoehorning it into the Innovate Corp. article is that it is set to be quite a long list.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
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23:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Thank you...I'll look at it and see if this will fit; the issue is this company has three-four names so we have to figure out a proper title to place it on (I'm bending more towards Innovate Corp. as it's the most current).
Nate • (
chatter)
21:59, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sandboxed the table at
User:Nathan_Obral/DTV_America so the info can be updated that way. :)
Nathan Obral • he/him •
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17:19, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
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Sammi Brie and
MrSchimpf: The table in that article needs cleanup and scoping, but you could replace the “notes” column with Facility ID, transmitter coords and the LMS links (along with a RabbitEars cite) and that should be enough to handle the vast majority of these articles. (Heck, the lone non-RabbitEars cite for
WQDI-LD about the
Cheddar—Dunkin’ Donuts doesn’t really belong there as it was a national promotion.)
Nathan Obral • he/him •
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16:16, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- List of stations owned by Innovate Corp. now exists and would be a suitable redirect target. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:15, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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