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The result was keep. Please edit the article to change its scope as needed. (non-admin closure) feminist ( talk) 13:40, 6 October 2018 (UTC) reply

John Frey and Peter Morris

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No indication that Frey meets WP:ACADEMIC or that Morris or pairing of Frey & Morris in an article meets WP:GNG. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 09:17, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• FYI, noting possible canvassing for this AfD. —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia / cheap sh*t room} 10:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply
  • You mean that the nominator put a deletion notice on the talk page of the page creator, as they are supposed to do? Or that other people who already watch the talk page and saw the deletion notice there are also discussing the deletion on that talk page? Neither one of those things is canvassing. — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply
    • No, neither of those things, David, as you know, I did not link to the deletion notification now, did I. Happy editing! —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia / cheap sh*t room} 18:31, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply
      • You linked to a discussion on that talk page. It is not forbidden to discuss AfDs on talk pages, even in a partisan way, and especially not on talk pages that have already had a notification made on them. — David Eppstein ( talk) 18:54, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply
        • Nonsense. "Especially in a partisan way"? Would you care to re-read WP:CANVAS, at your leisure? Many thanks. —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia / cheap sh*t room} 18:58, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply
          • The first three words of WP:CANVAS are "Canvassing is notification". Discussion, on a talk page where notification has already occurred, is not notification. — David Eppstein ( talk) 19:38, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply
            • "Pinging is notification", not discussion, and particularly pinging only those who may reasonably be expected to take a certain position. Goodbye! —SerialNumber54129 ^{paranoia / cheap sh*t room} 19:48, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply

    (ec) No, they mean Elisa Rolle pinging me, which can be considered as canvassing. However, I would have noticed the nomination anyway, since I removed the PROD template previously.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 18:33, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• Frey meets WP:ACADEMIC by being a professor at a top university and by being a Fulbright Scholar.-- Ymblanter ( talk) 18:57, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Washington, D.C.-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU ^(T) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU ^(T) 20:16, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• Keep but refocus on Frey alone. I just added eight published reviews of three books by Frey to the article. He passes WP:AUTHOR. The article makes no case for Morris being notable nor for the two of them being notable as a couple. — David Eppstein ( talk) 21:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep per WP:Author. I second the rational above by Eppstein. Rename article to John Frey (academic) or something along those lines. Morris can be mentioned as supported by RS. Thsmi002 ( talk) 01:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep but retitle the article to either "John A. Frey" or "John Andrew Frey" to distinguish him from the other people in WP named John Frey. A case for notability can be made as either an author or academic. I see nothing to show Peter Morris is WP notable. At best he can be mentioned in the article as Frey's significant other. Papaursa ( talk) 01:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 ( talk) 04:28, 29 September 2018 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 ( talk) 04:29, 29 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• Keep and rename to John Andrew Frey. He satisfies WP:AUTHOR. James500 ( talk) 16:52, 29 September 2018 (UTC) reply
• Keep and rename as suggested above. XOR'easter ( talk) 23:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC) reply

• In that case, happy for it to go to keep, refocus, rename per above. Mutt Lunker ( talk) 18:31, 3 October 2018 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.