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The result was delete as a WP:POVFORK. RL0919 ( talk) 19:32, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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Honestly this page just seems like an inflammatory essay about Joe Biden, most of this information could be included in the main page about Joe Biden and does not need its own article. CodeLyoko buzz 16:40, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. CodeLyoko buzz 16:40, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pennsylvania-related deletion discussions. CodeLyoko buzz 16:56, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Merge into new section on Joe Biden and redirect as nom. CodeLyoko buzz 16:42, 28 August 2019 (UTC)Delete after reading over the article more, there is nothing that you can really save here, if there is, its quite possible you can put some into Joe Biden but a redirect is not needed. CodeLyoko buzz 20:10, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Merge relevant content into Joe Biden, but need to remove the WP:OR and WP:POV. – Wallyfromdilbert ( talk) 17:11, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Comment (as page creator): Genuine question, what on the page do you think is original research? --
Bangalamania (
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17:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- As an example, the first two sentences under "Friendship with segregationists" is clear
WP:SYNTH. Also, the statement under "1978 re-election" that "This compromise alienated both black and white voters" is contradicted by the source, which states "The episode threatened to alienate him from his two key constituencies, working class whites and African-Americans. But the end of the teacher’s strike in November ultimately eased tensions." (emphasis added). Various other statements are not supported by the sourced material, but I do not think it's appropriate to go through them all on an AfD page. The article as a whole seems meant to push a particular POV, and the content transferred over to the Biden article would need serious work.
– Wallyfromdilbert (
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17:57, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you very much! I've corrected the issue. FWIW the comment on alienating black and white voters was copied over from content on Biden's main article (I've corrected that too). I would appreciate any other help you could give on this article, as even if you don't want to keep the content your help would probably make it easier to merge content. -- Bangalamania ( talk) 18:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- As an example, the first two sentences under "Friendship with segregationists" is clear
WP:SYNTH. Also, the statement under "1978 re-election" that "This compromise alienated both black and white voters" is contradicted by the source, which states "The episode threatened to alienate him from his two key constituencies, working class whites and African-Americans. But the end of the teacher’s strike in November ultimately eased tensions." (emphasis added). Various other statements are not supported by the sourced material, but I do not think it's appropriate to go through them all on an AfD page. The article as a whole seems meant to push a particular POV, and the content transferred over to the Biden article would need serious work.
– Wallyfromdilbert (
talk)
17:57, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Comment (as page creator): Genuine question, what on the page do you think is original research? --
Bangalamania (
talk)
17:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Merge what little of it is useful into Joe Biden and toss the rest. Squeeps10 Talk to me My edits 18:50, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete as obvious political piece per WP:POVFORK and WP:NOTSOAPBOX. -Crossroads- ( talk) 19:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete this article is one large WP:SYNTH ridden with NPOV issues. Vermont ( talk) 01:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Having grown up in the shadows of the bus battles of metro Detroit, I know equating forced long-distance busing with "desegregation" is a very controversial position that misunderstands the views of most who opposed busing. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 01:47, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SOAP, WP:FORK, and WP:ESSAY. FWIW, I don't support Biden for President but plan to vote Blue. Bearian ( talk) 16:59, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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