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The result was Keep. Michig ( talk) 08:55, 14 December 2014 (UTC) reply

Joan Stevens

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no claim to notability per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(academics), except the use of the uncited word "notable" Kintetsubuffalo ( talk) 06:05, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply

  • keep Can I suggest that you withdraw the AfD, please, as per Wikipedia:Notability (New Zealand people)? Schwede 66 07:04, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Delete. Guideline given by user:Schwede66 a proposed guideline - unto itself this is not a reason to delete the article, but still not sufficient grounds to connote notability. I found a biography on terra.govt.nz, but if we go with standard WP:BIO this still becomes a primary source. We need more sources to establish notability and a quick Google search turned up nothing. -- Dennis The Tiger ( Rawr and stuff) 07:12, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep this woman was a full professor at a large reputable university. She has an entire hall of residence named after her. She was notable (and extensively talked about) for being New Zealand's first female prof. She has a common name and her professional feats were performed before the internet age, that doesn't make her non-notable. See also refs listed in INNZ. Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Comment Joan Stevens's [ viaf record] is broken (bad merge with US architect of the same name, reported at Wikipedia:VIAF/errors). Stuartyeates ( talk) 08:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -Fimatic ( talk | contribs) 02:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. -Fimatic ( talk | contribs) 02:45, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. -Fimatic ( talk | contribs) 02:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep That we keep everyone included in their country's major reference work is not a failed guideline, it's one of the basic principles of inclusion in Wikipedia. that said, it does not help WP writing articles quite as sketchy as this, and expecting someone else to do the work. DGG ( talk ) 04:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC) reply
  • Keep. We have two pieces of evidence for notability that arguably are each enough for notability by themselves: DNZB, and CBE (note not OBE or MBE, which probably wouldn't be enough; see e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yasmin Bevan). Put the two together and she's clearly notable. — David Eppstein ( talk) 01:02, 11 December 2014 (UTC) reply
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