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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 16:33, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Jay Orpin
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I believe this to be a hoax article. It claims that its subject collaborated with a number of highly popular artists across many different genres of music throughout the 2000s. If this were true, one would expect there to be a sizable amount of information about such an accomplished music industry professional. Unfortunately, very little such information can be found. The only sources I could find about this person that weren't user-generated were a website about names that may post-date the Wikipedia article and a citation from a book published in 2013 that definitely does post-date the article, which was created in 2007. Its creator was a sockpuppet of someone who was indefinitely blocked for "insertion of deliberate misinformation". Suspiciously, the page seems to make an effort to conveniently explain away the lack of documentation on Orpin's existence, asserting that Orpin refused to be credited for the tracks he wrote or produced. Although I am confident that this article is a hoax, I listed it at AfD rather than adding a CSD or PROD tag because Orpin is mentioned on a number of other articles as well, making the article's deletion potentially controversial. SwineHerd ( talk/ contribs) 16:06, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I was also unable to find any evidence that this is even a real person. I removed mentions of "Jay Orpin" from articles. toweli ( talk) 16:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Also, the first two references in the article can't be found online and aren't even mentioned anywhere on the Internet. The third points to a 404 page now, and looking at archived versions of the webpage on the Wayback Machine reveals it to be a collection of articles about someone named Shane Drake. Orpin is not mentioned. SwineHerd ( talk/ contribs) 19:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Finland, and Sweden. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:12, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. No mentions in a Swedish media archive which collects most newspapers. No one living in Sweden called Orpin, as far as I can tell. / Julle ( talk) 21:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails verification. It is unclear whether this is a complete hoax, or an unimportant employee in the music industry; but it would be deleted either way. Walsh90210 ( talk) 02:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Julle. Draken Bowser ( talk) 09:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I suspect that this is an unknown wannabe who fantasizes that he influenced dozens of popular musicians, and planted false credits around user-generated websites. There are no reliable sources on his supposed achievements, and especially no reliable sources that mention him in the credits of anyone famous. It's distressing that this article has been putzing around WP since 2007, but better late than never. --- DOOMSDAYER520 ( TALK| CONTRIBS) 13:43, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
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