The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Mdaniels5757 ( talk) 22:20, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply

Jan Sport

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Reviewing under NPP. This BLP is sourced mainly to interviews, Youtube and the website of the subject’s management company. They may be notable but it’s not clear to me so coming here for consensus. Mccapra ( talk) 17:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Mccapra ( talk) 17:12, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

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• Comment: The page at least functions as a helpful redirect. I've not assessed sourcing yet, but IF the subject is deemed not yet notable enough for a standalone article, please redirect to RuPaul's Drag Race (season 12) and do not delete altogether. Also, I wish the nominator had posted their concern on the article's talk page, or tried redirecting, before jumping straight to AfD. The nominator acknowledges the subject may be notable -- well then, next time maybe do a search before just complaining about the current substandard sourcing. Thanks -- Another Believer _{( Talk)} 17:29, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

I agree that if not determined to be notable the page should be redirected, not deleted. -- Kbabej ( talk) 21:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply

• Keep, almost every RPDQ contestant, especially from the season that ended yesterday, will meet GNG with dozens of articles chronicling their progress over the summer. I see at least a dozen good candidates here. Additionally, the entire cast is tapped for tours, gigs, and interviews. Even contestants from prior seasons are mentioned again and again over the years as they compare and contrast new to old so there are very few contestants that won’t meet at least GNG. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 18:16, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Outside of interviews, there's coverage solely on the subject (versus episode recaps) in the Huff Post, Billboard, Gay Times, Pink News, Cosmopolitan, and others. There's also tons of coverage discussing her participation on the show, which a quick Google search will show. As as aside, I don't think it's appropriate to nominate an article without following the deletion nomination steps, which includes a WP:BEFORE search. Stating "They may be notable" leads me to believe there wasn't a lot of source review outside WP. -- Kbabej ( talk) 21:35, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Ru Paul's Drag Race contestants make sense for inclusion on Wikipedia. Fans want to know more about contestants and follow up on them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.142.39.64 ( talk) 19:42, 30 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Delete. I thought the rule was that only the winners and runner(s) up of reality TV shows are notable simply for appearing on the reality show. This one finished in 8th place! -- Ssilvers ( talk) 00:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

I've never heard of that policy. Can you point to it? If someone has RS covering them and meet GNG, why would not winning a reality TV competition preclude them from an article? -- Kbabej ( talk) 02:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

Ssilvers, Notability is based on secondary coverage, not specifically how they placed on a reality show. I agree with you, Jan's participation on RPDR does not make her notable, but sourcing covering her biography and work might. --- Another Believer _{( Talk)} 04:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

I've seen others argue that if your only notable activity as an entertainer was as a game show contestant, you'd need to win to be considered notable. Obviously, if there is significant press coverage unrelated to her appearances on the show, she would satisfy GNG, but I don't see it, except for the one Cosmopolitan article about make-up. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 04:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply

• Keep based on the scope and breadth of sources about the subject cited above, which demonstrate that the notability standard has been met here. Alansohn ( talk) 04:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep based on the above sources. — Toughpigs ( talk) 05:35, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Keep per GNG. --- Another Believer _{( Talk)} 18:52, 31 May 2020 (UTC) reply
• Redirect to RuPaul's Drag Race (season 12). I'll probably voice an unpopular opinion, so don't eat me up. This is a borderline single event case. I say borderline, because there is some coverage, but it is so dependent on the primary event that separating subject's individual weight from the influence and attention trail of the show is practically impossible. 'Almost every contestant from this show will meet criteria' is not an argument and represents what is usually called biased, as every case should be treated independently. Notwithstanding previous comments, I don't believe there are enough reliable sources that indicate significance explicitly outside of the competition in question. Juliette Han ( talk) 16:40, 6 June 2020 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.