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The result was delete. Stifle ( talk) 10:20, 16 March 2015 (UTC) reply

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Does not pass WP:POLITICIAN. Local (county) level politicians are not usually considered notable enough for an article on Wikipedia. While there an exception for local politicians who have "received significant press coverage", I don't think the press coverage for Mr. Shade can be considered significant. It's more the sort of local press coverage that any county level politician might receive. He certainly has not received coverage in national or international level media. Essentially, I am not seeing anything that makes the subject stand out from the thousands of other county level politicians that are out there, except possibly his age. The article does make an attempt to establish notability by noting that he "is currently the youngest elected official in the state of Maryland", however that is a temporary claim to fame (give it a few years, and he will no longer be the youngest). It would be different if he were notable for being the youngest ever to have been elected, but I can not find sources to support such a claim. Blueboar ( talk) 15:23, 22 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Ism schism ( talk) 14:07, 23 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 16:11, 23 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Edward Burroughs was 18 when elected to a school board position in Prince George's County, Md., but this is a school board position not a position of great importance, such as a County Councilman and Legislative Director for two of Maryland's House Ways and Means Committee Delegates, as in the case of Jake Shade. It's short-sighted to say te least that Mr. Shade isn't notable enough in the state.

Mr. Burroughs page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Burroughs_(elected_official)

Thetruthspeaker14 ( talk) 15:49, 24 February 2015 (UTC) reply

Sorry to say it, but County Councilman isn't a position of "great importance" either ... and "Legislative Director" is a staff position, it's not an elected one. Mr. Shade seems to be a promising and ambitious young politician, who will probably go on to hold a notable office at some point in the future. But I question whether his career has reached that point YET. Blueboar ( talk) 12:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC) reply

• Keep I generally agree with Blueboar, the article may not clearly pass Politician. In my opinion, it also does not clearly fail either. Truthspeaker14 also brings about a point that Wikipedia has room for similar articles. In my opinion, the subject has received significant coverage from multiple reliable sources. For these reasons, I am voting keep. Thanks. Ism schism ( talk) 16:04, 24 February 2015 (UTC) reply

I agree that this one is not cut and dried... which is why we need to discuss it here. Councilman Shade has certainly has gained press coverage... but that coverage is all in relatively local level media. I suppose the question we have to decide here is whether the local level coverage qualifies as being significant enough, or not. My reading of the relevant guidelines is that we would need something more.

Oh... and as for the fact that the Edward Burroughs (elected official) article exists ... WP:OTHERSTUFF has never been a good argument at AfD... Having looked at that article, I question whether its subject is notable enough... and I may nominate that article for deletion as well. Blueboar ( talk) 17:48, 24 February 2015 (UTC) reply

• Delete Non-notable politician and no significant coverage that doesn't come with being any elected official at any level. 131.118.229.17 ( talk) 22:36, 10 March 2015 (UTC) reply
• Delete. The nominator says "Local (county) level politicians are not usually considered notable enough for an article on Wikipedia." Quite so. Should Mr. Shade advance to statewide office, an entry would be appropriate. 28bytes ( talk) 23:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC) reply
• Comment. He is proclaimed the youngest official in MD, but his age is not included anywhere in the article. Is this an oversight? Billy Hathorn ( talk) 16:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
• Some county commissioners have been in Wikipedia. [1] in Los Angeles County is one. Some commissioners have quite a few constituents. Billy Hathorn ( talk) 17:05, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply
• Another county commissioner in Prince William County, VA. [2]. Sometimes they are called supervisors, instead of commissioners. Billy Hathorn ( talk) 17:08, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply

This is why you always have to judge these things on a subject by subject basis, and can not play the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS game. WP:POLITICIAN says that while most county level politicians are not considered notable enough, there are exceptions to that generalized rule. Regarding the two people Billy mentions ( Michael D. Antonovich and Corey Stewart (politician))... not only is there is more than local press coverage for each of them... they both have been candidates for State wide office (Lt. Gov.) These factors make a difference... and separate notable subjects like Antonovitch and Stewart from purely local politicians like Mr. Shade. Blueboar ( talk) 17:43, 15 March 2015 (UTC) reply

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