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WP:BIO1E "However, if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified." The Google Doodle clearly constitutes media coverage and while creation of the Nacho is the main event, reference to his son, his career, and so on indicate that there is more to Ignacio's life than just this one event, and while this is the obvious notable event his ownership of a restaurant implies that there are more things that could be added.
170.173.8.110 (
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16:11, 15 August 2019 (UTC) —
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Keep After receiving a Google Doodle in his honor, it would be hard to argue that this article ought not to exist. Plus it contains essential biographical information that stands apart from nachos, the dish.
Danmurphy2406 (
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12:22, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep clearly notable, and does not meet the standards of WP:BIO1E.. We have TFA's for people who are notable solely for inventing a food product. I don't even like nachos, and am semi-retired from Wikipedia, but feel strongly enough to speak out on this. --
T1980 (
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12:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep He's the subject of the 8/15/2019 Google Doodle. This article will expand as people visit it, and will be noteworthy on an ongoing basis. --
Hmcnally (
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12:44, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete. There's virtually no sourced content here, and what's here isn't encyclopedic. Tone is bad. I don't see much salvageable.
PowersT13:27, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep - I see room for opportunity and improvement, so I hope we can fix this page if more sources can be found. In addition, we can also take info from the other languages, then translate and put it on this page. (Reply to inflammatory remarks; removed.
Uncle G (
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Davidng913 (
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13:58, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep I see nothing objectionable, the article provides information and is cited, and, as noted in other comments, its being the subject of a Google doodle is likely to improve the article's depth.
Frannymae64 (
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15:10, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep - an and obvious one at that. Plenty of sources to satisfy GNG and needs to be expanded, not deleted or redirected.
♟♙ (
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16:52, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment. Yes, but a huge amount of GNG has been generated from strong RS as a result of him being a Google Doodle per my comments below). That gives him adequate RS to meet
WP:GNG alone; the additional books and other historical references, also support his GNG.
Britishfinance (
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00:59, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep - Why in the world would an article with
WP:NOTA standards be deleted? This article should NOT be deleted. Tornadosurvivor2011 21:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC) — Preceding
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Tornadosurvivor2011 (
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Comment. I have restored the AfD. It should not have been closed by a non-administrator given the circumstances. Because of the amount of disruption by IPs, I have semi-protected the AfD for one week.--
Bbb23 (
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23:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)reply
merge/redirect to the nacho article. This fails the BLP1E easily as he is not notable for anything else, but the supposed invention, and it's not even verified that he is the one who invented the nacho in the first place.
Valeince (
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00:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment.
WP:BIO1E does not exclude a subject from being a BLP; it sets the conditions under which a BIO1E can be a BLP, and in this case that On the other hand, if an event is of sufficient importance, even relatively minor participants may require their own articles. Inventing nachos is significant (as noted by Google).
Britishfinance (
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01:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep. There is clearly a lot of GNG from strong
WP:RS re this subject, not just from his being the subject of a Google Doodle (The Independent[1], USA Today[2], Fortune (magazine)[3], Time (magazine)[4]; there are lots more), but even before that, he has been given a section in several notable books on food as the creator of the nachos (I added a reference from the Oxford Companion to American Food and Drink (he gets two pages), and another notable book on US food by a notable author,
Josh Chetwynd; again, I could have added several more books), and other RS, such as Huffington Post from 2012
[5], that pre-date his appearing on Google Doodle.
WP:BIO1E does not exclude a subject from being a BLP; it sets the conditions under which a BIO1E can be a BLP, and says: On the other hand, if an event is of sufficient importance, even relatively minor participants may require their own articles. Inventing
Nachos is notable (even Google recognise it), and he is the recognised inventor.
Britishfinance (
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00:56, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Speedy Keep. He is notable as the inventor of a very famous dish *and also* as the subject of considerable international media attention. As noted by several above, article does not fail notability by
WP:BIO1E. I know we should assume the best about editor intentions, but the timing of the deletion request--exactly when he is growing in media notability--seems intentionally malicious, calculated to make visitors question his notability with a conspicuous deletion request precisely when the Google doodle is driving more traffic to the article. Let's put this completely unnecessary deletion attempt to rest.--
Wikibojopayne (
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03:32, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
Keep for reasons well-argued by Britishfinance. Moreover, the article has well-sourced biographical information about Anaya that would fit poorly in an article about nachos themselves, so merging would be contra-indicated.
XOR'easter (
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14:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)reply
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