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The result was merge to Eastern Ukraine offensive. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃 ( ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 09:45, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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As per WP:GNG, the article Horlivka offensive does not seem important enough to require its own page, due to the lack of news surrounding the subject and the lack of any new information on the "battle" as all relevant news articles are over 20 days old. I would suggest either deletion or a possible merge into Eastern Ukraine offensive should anyone deem this important enough to remain mentionable. Arakui ( talk) 02:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Arakui ( talk) 02:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Russia-related deletion discussions. Arakui ( talk) 02:32, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
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- Merge into Eastern Ukraine offensive. Laurel Lodged ( talk) 13:07, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge into Eastern Ukraine offensive until it's notable and actually confirmed to be real. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawsongfg ( talk • contribs) 22:13, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Beat me to it, I had been prepping to merge this page. However, this page is entirely sourced to unverified and unsubstantiated claims by the Uke government, which is why I'm leaning towards outright deletion more than merging. I'm skeptical there is anything of value or verifiability to merge.
Curbon7 (
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22:34, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- This is literally another case of that fighting in Kruty if it existed (so far on both, only Ukrainian sources) Dawsongfg ( talk) 23:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge into the Eastern Ukraine offensive, as per the above. QueenofBithynia ( talk) 23:27, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete there are no sources to prove that this "counteroffensive" is real, the only sources listed in the article are all owned by the Ukrainian government or have their citations as posts from twitter/facebook. It's similar to the Kruty skirmishes article, where the only sources available were also only the Ukrainian (government) ones. - Amuuun ( talk) 08:56, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Note It looks like they're moving very close to Horlivka (source: the map), but I could be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.82.204.49 ( talk) 16:57, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Merge any salvageable material into Eastern Ukraine offensive. Anonimu ( talk) 18:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- aka at least the claim then Dawsongfg ( talk) 21:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: Seems the battle itself is a fabrication by some second rate Ukrainian sources. No mentions of a "Battle" raging on until now or before. Fails
WP:GNG.
Mr.User200 (
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23:49, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- And Kruty Skirmish got merged just saying
Dawsongfg (
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00:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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Kruty skirmishes was actually deleted, unless it has been merged into an article I am not aware of.
Amuuun (
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08:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Northeastern Ukraine Offensive.
Dawsongfg (
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19:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- The mention of fighting within Kruty in
Northeastern Ukraine offensive is seperate to the supposed drone skirmishes covered in the deleted Kurty skirmishes article.
Arakui (
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23:00, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- "The Kruty Territorial Council later claimed that nearly 200 Russian soldiers were killed in clashes with Ukrainian armed forces and the Territorial Defense Forces in their village of Kruty, located in Chernihiv Oblast" ???
Dawsongfg (
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02:47, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. The Kruty skirmishes article covered a series of alleged drone stikes (and maybe ambushes? i can't fully recall.) on russian convoy routes in the Kruty area, not the alleged fighting within Kruty mentioned in the aforementioned Northeastern Ukraine offensive article. Now that i think about it, skirmishes isnt even an accurate term for what that article claimed to cover. Regardless, it was deleted because of WP:GNG and due to its only sources being UKR state media (and facebook posts), much like this article. Arakui ( talk) 22:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- "The Kruty Territorial Council later claimed that nearly 200 Russian soldiers were killed in clashes with Ukrainian armed forces and the Territorial Defense Forces in their village of Kruty, located in Chernihiv Oblast" ???
Dawsongfg (
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02:47, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- The mention of fighting within Kruty in
Northeastern Ukraine offensive is seperate to the supposed drone skirmishes covered in the deleted Kurty skirmishes article.
Arakui (
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23:00, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Northeastern Ukraine Offensive.
Dawsongfg (
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19:26, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
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Kruty skirmishes was actually deleted, unless it has been merged into an article I am not aware of.
Amuuun (
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08:49, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- And Kruty Skirmish got merged just saying
Dawsongfg (
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00:45, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge per above. EkoGraf ( talk) 17:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge. There doesn't appear to be anything to this offensive besides some statements by Ukrainian officials, with no significant troop movements behind it or notable events to the supposed offensive. -- 1234567891011a ( talk) 21:37, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete or Merge. Per above. Silver181 ( talk) 01:21, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, no evidence that anything actually happened beyond announcements. Doesn't really merit a mention on the offensive article. ansh. 666 18:54, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Merge into Eastern Ukraine offensive would be the best solution. TH1980 ( talk) 04:10, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Merge. All indications suggest that this was aborted early on. Perathian ( talk) 01:01, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Delete after the offensive was announced, it was never mentioned again, so I don't think that this page should exist as a result. 72.229.242.36 ( talk) 19:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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