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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 21:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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This seems to be more of an area than a specific settlement. The maps show a few buildings but no concentration, and while there is a Hopewell Church nearby, it may just be coincidence as "Hopewell" is a common name for a Baptist church, and there's another in the county which attracts more Google attention due to its cemetery. About the only other things are references to it as an area. Mangoe ( talk) 21:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Alabama. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 21:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- And indeed, pre-2021-feature-code-squashing the GNIS feature code was … drumroll … "locale", so Wikipedia is lying about places to the world again. Uncle G ( talk) 11:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not "lying", the local county newspaper refers to Hopewell as a community, regardless of whether it is notable. For some reason I got mad that you said Wikipedia is lying so I found those references. lol.--
Milowent •
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- Yes it is, and it contains thousands of these lies. We had one that turned out to be stating the falsehood that a well in the middle of the Sonoran Desert was a populated place just a few days ago. A "locale" is a feature code that is not a populated place, which was by contrast "ppl". And as Mangoe has already pointed out, Hopewell Road in that newspaper article is the location of Hopewell Church (which had its own GNIS record that originally said "church" as the feature code, amusingly enough). You have coatracked something about a different place onto the lie. Uncle G ( talk) 14:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Uncle G, wait, is this well, " Queens Well"? Described as a "village of 15 homes" by the Tuscon Citizen in 1993 [1] and a Papago village with solar equipment constructed in 1982 [2], and an "outlying Indian village" in which 3 homes were destroyed in a flood in 1962 where the "Red Cross is feeing and clothing all the residents of Queens Well." [3]?-- Milowent • has spoken 17:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- Whether or not WP is being in some sense accurate here, any accuracy is purely accidental, as this article was mass-created by someone who routinely called all these places "unincorporated communities". I don't know if I'd go so far as to call them conscious misrepresentations, but the level of negligence coupled with the euphemistic color of calling places "communities" is particularly galling given the persistent pushback against any kind of wholesale cleanup, much less what goes on when these are nominated one by one.
Mangoe (
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14:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- G, my addition is about the same Hopewell community, the Hershel Jones road referenced in that newspaper article is near the GPS location linked in the article. I think there would be probably be little pushback against editing "locale" articles to say locale instead of unincorporated community -- I realize that may render them more likely to be non-notable.-- Milowent • has spoken 16:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:09, 19 December 2023 (UTC)- Delete as not meeting WP:GNG and WP:N. बिनोद थारू ( talk) 02:09, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
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