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The result was no consensus. Black Kite ( talk) 10:06, 7 November 2013 (UTC) reply

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This unreferenced article is a fork of set-top box with an imaginary or very uncommon title. (As far as I am aware, an "HD media player" is a "high-definition media player", not what this article thinks.) I wouldn't say "no" to a merge with set-top box article, but what can be possibly be merged? Codename Lisa ( talk) 07:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 18:07, 10 October 2013 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. Codename Lisa ( talk) 19:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten ( talk) 15:29, 18 October 2013 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten ( talk) 00:18, 26 October 2013 (UTC) reply

• Delete and take a close look at similar/related pages such as Net-connected media player, Digital media receiver, List of streaming media systems, Comparison of streaming media systems, Web television, Web-to-TV and Webcast. Perhaps we can merge them into two or three comprehensive articles. As for the term "hard disk media player", the Netgear NTV550 "Ultimate HD Media Player" is a commonly used streamere, and it doesn't have a hard disk -- the HD stands for high definition. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 00:47, 27 October 2013 (UTC) reply
• Keep – HD could stand for hemodialysis, high density, … and above all Harley-Davidson!!! Seriously, it also refers to high-definition and hard drive/hard disk.
  A HD Media Player (HDMP), with "HD" referring to "hard drive", is a mini/micro-computer that stores digital media files and/or streams to a hard drive (or other non-volatile data storage devices) and, through an audio/video output, it can also play these media files to a TV/monitor/projection screen and etcetera. Some of them have a display monitor and loudspeaker[s] to extend their playback capabilities (and making them "portable"). It is an extended (in media types and formats) VCR/ VTR, and, more recently, DVD recorder/ DVR. Note that the presence of a hard drive makes it necessarily a recorder.
  It could also refer to a player capable of playing High-definition video with 720 scan lines or more, but it is better to refer to them as "HD-Media" (with "high-definition-media" that being one word).
  In both cases it is not a DMR, which is more a hub with multiple input/output (I/O) ports, and is comparable, on its input side, to our old, but always beautiful, analog radio receivers, and to UHF and VHF "aerial" TV and cable/satellite receivers. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 27 October 2013 (UTC) reply

  Do you have any references for this usage? I haven't heard the term "HDMP" Andrevan @ 21:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC) reply

• Keep - This area of coverage needs improved organization. Deleting stray bits and pieces is not going to help. Editors need time to sort this out. Consider a merge to Media server. ~ KvnG 17:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC) reply
• Strong Delete for the following reasons:
  1. No source – Not even one source is present in the article
  2. Lack of notability – Does not conform to WP:GNG
  3. Neologism – Articles on neologism are not allowed. I have never seen the word "HD media player" used for anything. "HD", when comes with "media player", always means high-definition. So, if I describe User:Pjoef's statement above as "BS", are you willing to assume good faith and think that perhaps I meant "beyond smart" or "beautiful statement"? I am not going to bet my life on it.
  4. Fake info – I tested some of the items listed in the article, such as "GoFlex TV (STAJ100)", "Seagate Freeagent" and several "Eminent". They were HD, alright, but the company website made it clear that they are HD as in "high definition" not as in "having hard disk".
  5. Spacer filler by nature – If you disregard the title and lead, what do you get? Some content that, if had source, was a candidate for any modern media player article, be it hardware or software. For example, read HD media player § Market niche. You can imagine it is put in Windows Media Player article. Or read HD media player § Formats, resolutions and file systems. Could be part of any notable set-top box article.

Fleet Command ( talk) 12:26, 6 November 2013 (UTC) reply

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