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The result was delete. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 02:10, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Grunts (film)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFILM: the current references are porn blogs (NSFW) and industry award rosters. Pornography industry awards are a dime a dozen. I looked for additional sources and found only promo and passing mentions; no significant coverage in reliable sources or other mainstream recognition. Cheers, gnu 57 17:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. gnu 57 17:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. gnu 57 17:18, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. The Oscars, Grammy’s, Tony’s, and Emmy’s are also “insider” and “industry” awards. Are they dismissed as well? This film seems to have a staggering amount of awards, the most of any porn film I’ve ever noticed, that would seem to make it one of the most notable porn films ever. Gleeanon409 ( talk) 10:24, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
- Winning an Oscar, Grammy, etc. gets non-trivial coverage from multiple independent mainstream media sources. Porn award wins generally don't. That is generally true with most other mainstream industry awards. Porn trade mags like AVN promote the industry and get their revenue from the industry. They are not objectively independent. If this is one of the most notable films ever, it needs acknowledgment and critical commentary from credible sources. • Gene93k ( talk) 11:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Greetings, Gleeanon409. There is no percentage in arguing that Oscars or Emmys do not confer Wikikonotability on a subject. - The Gnome ( talk) 21:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k ( talk) 10:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per my comments above and the lack of evidence found to support WP:NFILM notability. The nominator's assessment of sources is correct. My own independent search for sources yielded only trivial mentions. • Gene93k ( talk) 11:22, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Delete since subject fails WP:NFILM. Wikipedia is not a film listing. - The Gnome ( talk) 21:02, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
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