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The result was delete. j⚛e decker ^talk 00:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Grigore Lăpușanu (  | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – ( View log · Stats)

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I can see no indication that this individual was notable. I will address any possible objections one by one.

• He was a state secretary, which is a civil-service position below the rank of minister. While government ministers are notable, state secretaries usually are not, and there's no indication his activity in that post made him notable.

• The cited sources barely mention him, and certainly do not back up the claim that he was a party leader.

• The uncited sources don't do much: first, they lack citations and page numbers. Second, they're from a local newspaper published for three years in the small provincial city of Zalău (some 10 miles from the man's birthplace) - not exactly sterling scholarly material.

• Tellingly, the only obituary consists of a few lines written by his family. The man died in 2010, not 1930. Had he been at all notable, there would have been some press reaction; Romania does have several national and many regional newspapers. Instead, nothing. - Biruitorul ^Talk 01:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k ( talk) 01:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC) reply

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Keep - He might not be a well known personality but I think the amount of publishing and public activities establishes his notability.-- Codrin.B ( talk) 14:56, 10 June 2014 (UTC) reply

WP:AUTHOR: "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors... The person has created... a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." In other words, notability isn't conferred by writing twenty or fifty or a hundred books - or, in the case of Lăpușanu, seven. Notability arises when third-party observers have written about those books. There is no evidence that is the case for Lăpușanu.

WP:POLITICIAN: "Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national office... Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage." Again, not the case. The man never held any type of political (as opposed to civil-service) office. There is also zero retrievable or cited material to indicate he was a prominent figure within his political party.

WP:BASIC: "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources which are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject." Once again, no. A few scattered, rather trivial mentions, mainly in sub-par publications, do not constitute "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources".

In sum, there is no policy-based reason for keeping this article around. - Biruitorul ^Talk 15:36, 10 June 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete I have to agree with the nom this looks like too much like a self-published biography by friends or family. Unsourced personal details (6'2" tall, names of his children). Also searched site:.ro and found some sources but nothing substantial. Admittedly I don't speak Romanian but using Google Translate. -- Green C 16:22, 15 June 2014 (UTC) reply

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica ¹⁰⁰⁰ 08:20, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply

• Delete The references are very weak. Does not prove that he is notable. Ascii0054 ( talk) 09:28, 18 June 2014 (UTC) reply
• Delete per GreenC ♥ Solarra ♥ ^{♪ 話 ♪} ߷ _{♀ 投稿 ♀} 06:00, 19 June 2014 (UTC) reply

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