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The result was delete. czar 06:07, 3 March 2017 (UTC) reply

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Gauthier Bouchet does not fill criteria of notability

Furthermore, he is a french politician, but this page is only in english (but I don't know if it is a criteria...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah Trichet-Allaire ( talk • contribs) 22:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC). reply

Bouchet seems eligible for Wikipedia criterias as he's both an important politician in his region (local leader, elected in an important city) and an historian specialized about 19-20th French political history. He's known as the author of a thesis about the firts years of the Third Republic, different articles (Revue de centre etudes et de recherche sur le bonapartisme, etc.), and currently works about legitimist (ultra conservative monarchism) in Western France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Biscailuz ( talk • contribs) 03:00, 7 January 2015 (UTC) reply

I launch again this procedure, which was at the time irregularly stopped by Biscailuz ( talk · contribs). Kumʞum ouatizite ? 16:49, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 17:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply

Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 17:21, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Lack of significant coverage. Major press venues (Libération, Le Monde, Le Figaro) doesn't seem to have an article about the article topic. Lack of sources in the article. The currently rather long content seems to be out of scope on Wikipedia, written more for a personal site than a summary of sources available (there aren't any). -- Dereckson ( talk) 17:43, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete. On top of that:

  There is a strong probability that Biscailuz ( talk · contribs) is Gauthier Bouchet himself or someone close to him as, from the earliest version of the page, we can found personnal data and information which have no existence on the web (e.g. the complete name : "Gauthier Moïse André Bouchet", nothing on the web);

  A strong probability of self-promotion: after been quick deleted 3 times on fr.wp, he tried there;

  Some lies about the notability: the Major press articles section contain... a very, very local media which never could be used, even as a source in fr.wp and a Youtube video which is basically a primary and promotional source. Kumʞum ouatizite ? 18:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply

• Delete., for same reason than precedent comment. I am myself elected in this city, and he is not a particularly known politician, just one of the 50 member of the city council of Saint-Nazaire (70 000 hab) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah Trichet-Allaire ( talk • contribs) 19:00, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Keep. Despite his political activities seem quite local, G. Boucher is a local historian that mainly works on history of conservatisms (monarchism and gaullism) and history of French republicanism since its beginning. His thesis is a regional study of legitimist monarchism, a continuation of previous works on local elections in Loire-Inférieure department during the Third Republic. A part of his articles can be consulted on the website that he dedicated to his historical works, the Société d'histoire politique de l'Ouest. However, it's strange to notice that this site was currently unreferenced within the sources of its Wikipedia article. -- Daunou ( talk) 22:16, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply
  • — Daunou ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Shawn in Montreal ( talk) 23:33, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Draftify. There's clearly quite a bit that can be said about him, enough that he'd qualify for an article if he could actually be shown to clear WP:GNG — but what this article is lacking is adequate reliable source referencing to show that he clears GNG. This article, in fact, has one of the biggest gaps I've ever seen on Wikipedia between its significant length and depth, and the negligible amount of referencing that was actually present to actually support the content. A gap like that inevitably means one of three things, however: either (a) the subject is more referenceable, and clears GNG more easily, than the article actually shows, or (b) he wrote it largely or entirely himself in defiance of WP:AUTOBIO, or (c) somebody directly contacted him to collect otherwise unsourceable personal details from a private interview (which we're also not allowed to do, because our sources have to be verifiable in published content.) Nothing here, however, is so inherently notable as to exempt him from having to be sourceable over GNG, because without adequate referencing we can't properly sort out what's verifiable as true and what's unsourceable insider information or conflict of interest puffery. So move it to draftspace, so that people have a chance to get the referencing up to snuff — if in three to six months that still hasn't happened, then it can be MFDed accordingly. Bearcat ( talk) 22:51, 24 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete Non-notable, self-promoting entry by single-purpose account. Popo le Chien ^{throw a bone} 13:34, 25 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete: criterias aren't reached. NAH 13:54, 25 February 2017 (UTC). reply
• Delete his political position at present is not high enough to show notability. His work as a historian is also not yet on a notable level. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 17:23, 25 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Delete Minor political position of only local importance. Party position in minor party. No evidence of broad academic notice. Only evidence for WP:GNG is in WP:ROUTINE local organs or in media connected to subject or subject's party and hence not independent. This all adds up to not passing WP:GNG or any applicable WP:SNG. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 02:28, 27 February 2017 (UTC) reply
• Keep Seems to gain both political position due to the French presidential campaign and an interesting audience as local historian about electoral studies. Anyway this page needs an importance clearance of his sources. They exist on the Internet when we type 'Gautier Bouchet' on Google but apparently many serious sources weren't referenced on this Wikipedia notice at this time (as his historical articles, participations on major medias as Sputnik etc.) Planetesimal (talk) (contrib) 13:32, 2 March 2017 (UTC) — Planetesimal ( talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. reply

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