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Keep1,
2 reviews, also has DVD commentary for a production section....we need to give the page creator more than 10 minutes to write an article before AfD.CTJF83chat22:50, 8 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete, I'm gonna change it to a non-notable episode, thanks to other delete !voters...I still don't agree with an AfD 10 minutes after the page is created....CTJF83chat14:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Of those two links, #1 says nothing about the episode except that it exists, and #2 is a plot summary that still fails to demonstrate why the episode would be notable enough to have its own separate article above and beyond the existing episode list. What cultural impact did this particular episode have in its own right, beyond simply being an individual episode of a TV series? For example, the only episode of Ellen that has or will ever have its own article is "
The Puppy Episode", because it's the only one for which we can write anything more than a generic plot summary — none of the show's 108 other episodes have their own standalone articles, but are instead covered only in the omnibus
List of Ellen episodes. And that's a show that ranked in the Top 20 in its ratings prime — something which Everybody Hates Chris, funny though it is, never came close to achieving. What, then, is this particular episode's claim to independent notability? What's unique and encyclopedic about it to warrant a separate article?
Bearcat (
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21:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I'd like to note that this is part of a larger issue; in the past week or so, a user has been systematically spinning off standalone articles about each episode of this series, consisting only of an infobox and the plot description pasted directly from
List of Everybody Hates Chris episodes. Of course, the standard notability rule applies here; we only need or want standalone articles about individual episodes of a TV series if
reliable sources demonstrating the individual notability of that individual episode are available — but for the vast majority of individual episodes of the vast majority of TV shows, the most we will ever want or need is a single merged episode list. But when I initially tagged the first seven articles with {{inuniverse}}, somebody came along and arbitrarily removed that tag without making any actual improvements to the articles. Accordingly, they've all now been redirected back to
List of Everybody Hates Chris episodes#Season 1: 2005-2006, which is what we should do here as well. Redirect to
List of Everybody Hates Chris episodes#Season 1: 2005-2006.
Bearcat (
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17:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)reply
I agree with all that except I don't think it even merits a redirect; is anyone going to be searching for it by episode title? There are going to be a lot of "Everybody Hates..." entries showing up in the auto-complete box if we give each episode a redirect.
28bytes (
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17:47, 9 October 2010 (UTC)reply
You're probably right. Though traditionally the idea behind redirecting was to minimize the likelihood of the article being recreated again, that obviously didn't prevent it here.
Bearcat (
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21:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)reply
Delete per nom. Uninteresting ghits if any, I got no hits at google scholar when I tried, a single episode like this would need to have some serious impact to be noteworthy - and this, sadly, hasn't. It's nothing personal.
Greswik (
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14:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)reply
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