The result was no consensus. While a majority of editors have !voted for keep, editors in favor of deletion continue to maintain that strict organizational notability guidelines have not been met. The difference in evaluation comes down to differing assessments over the degree of independence of various examples of coverage cited in this discussion, as well as assessments as to whether coverage is of the organization, of its reports, or of its founders. A few keep !votes also made IAR arguments to the effect that this organization's reports' prominence in coverage relating to Israel-Palestine is sufficient to establish notability despite the fact that this coverage is generally not of significant depth regarding the organization. signed, Rosguill talk 15:31, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP; no coverage which is independent, reliable, and significant,
While there is a small amount of independent coverage of some of the initiatives it has launched and the reports it has published, this is not sufficient to establish notability per both
WP:INHERITORG and
WP:NCORP#Significant coverage of the company itself; Sources that describe only a specific topic related to an organization should not be regarded as providing significant coverage of that organization.
Note that this article was previously deleted under a different name at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euro- Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor; it was then recreated by a Euro-Med HRM employee under a number of names ( The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor, etc) before finally "sticking" under the current name. The current article has also been edited by at least nine different Euro-Med HRM employees, mostly WP:UPEs.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20181211-euro-med-hrm-saudi-arabia-has-forcibly-disappeared-3-libyans/ | ? | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
https://www.marsad.ly/en/2021/05/19/euro-med-hrm-calls-for-disclosure-of-maps-for-mine-sites-in-libya/ | ? | Significant coverage of a "call" from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
https://www.euromedmonitor.org/en/About | About-self | ? | ✘ No | |
https://uia.org/s/or/en/1122281718 | ? Unclear where these profiles come from; whether they are from the organization | One sentence of coverage of their aims, and a list of its structure | ✘ No | |
https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-palestine | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/report-special-rapporteur-situation-human-rights-palestinian-8 | ? | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://english.alaraby.co.uk/news/israels-icc-rebuttal-admission-war-crimes-rights-group | Significant coverage of a statement from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | ||
https://mondoweiss.net/2018/07/family-visits-imprisoned/ | Republication of a republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ~ | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/2890/Euro-Med-announces-changes-in-its-administrative-and-executive-structure | About-self | ? | ? | ✘ No |
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-targets-rights-defenders-un-council-hears/1992437 | WP:RSP for Anadolu Agency (controversial topics, international politics) | Significant coverage of a statement from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
https://ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/author/ramy-abdu/ | ? | ? | Focused on Ramy Abdu; no significant coverage of Ramy Abdu or Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/author/ramy-abdu/ | ? | ? | Focused on Ramy Abdu; no significant coverage of Ramy Abdu or Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/mec/2019/08/27/as-mena-states-grow-increasingly-repressive-businesses-should-lead-reform/ | Published by Ramy Abdu | ? | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/staff | About-self | ? | ? | ✘ No |
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/101164 | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://imemc.org/article/euro-med-monitor-report-suffocation-and-isolation-15-years-of-israeli-blockade-on-gaza/ | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://web.archive.org/web/20200407104742/https://www.soc.ucsb.edu/faculty/lisa-hajjar | Faculty page for a member of the Euro-Med HRM Board of Trustees | ? | No mention of the Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://poli.ucalgary.ca/profiles/tareq-ismael | Faculty page for a member of the Euro-Med HRM Board of Trustees | ? | No mention of the Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/michael-smith-uae-prison-mps-b1813663.html | Significant coverage of a letter organized by the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | ||
https://exeter.academia.edu/TanyaNewburySmith | academia.edu page for a member of the Euro-Med HRM Board of Trustees | ? | No mention of the Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/authors/3/Maha-Hussaini | About-self | ? | Maybe SIGCOV of Maha Hussaini, not sigcov of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/author/maha-hussaini/ | Author page for a Euro-Med HRM reporter | ? | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/maha-hussaini-martin-adler-prize-win-rory-peck-trust | ? | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://www.una-oic.org/page/public/news_details.aspx?id=328294&NL=True | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of an official complaint from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://www.un.org/press/en/2021/ngo914.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Libya | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2021/ngo923.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Bahrain | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2021/ngo927.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Israel | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2022/ngo942.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Bahrain | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2023/ngo950.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Israel | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2023/ngo953.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Israel | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2023/ngo959.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Bahrain | ✘ No | |
https://press.un.org/en/2022/ngo933.doc.htm | UN press release about the UN granting Consultative Status to several NGO's | Single sentence of coverage about an objection from Israel | ✘ No | |
https://kvinnatillkvinna.org/about-us/where-we-work/mena/palestine/ | Funded (?) a Euro-Med HRM Project | ? | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2017/08/palestine-gaza-civil-society-women-leadership-incubator.html | ? | Significant coverage of Women's Leadership Incubator project, passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://www.launchgood.com/campaign/from_denial_to_defense_youth_for_rights#!/ | A "go fund me" equivilent for a Euro-Med HRM project | Significant coverage of the project, not of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
http://www.ju.edu.jo/Lists/NewsLetter/Disp_f.aspx?ID=1175&Issue=August%202016&order=8 | UJ Newsletter about a summer school hosted at UJ | ? | Passing mention of the Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://thepoliticain.co.uk/middle-east/201/ | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of a summer school set up by Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://www.bnreport.com/en/wikirights-2/ | ? | Significant coverage of a program by Euro-Med HRM to edit Wikipedia, no significant coverage of the Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://law.ju.edu.jo/Lists/AcademicNews/Test.aspx?ID=78&ContentTypeId=0x0100FB3DD40023178C409CDBAC99DB39D980 | Copy of source 36, this time hosted on UJ's sharepoint | ? | ✘ No | |
https://web.archive.org/web/20211003105920/https://europebriefnews.com/2017/10/25/watering-the-seeds/ | Not discussed at RSN, but I'm convinced that it is not a reliable source. The source is obscure and now defunct, and its "about me" page only said "Europe Brief News (EBN) provides our readers with latest news from across Europe such as news, stories, politics, tourism, travel, food, health diet and many more topics" which does not indicate any level of editorial control or reliability. The specific article also raises questions; it is labeled as "news", but it is reads as an opinion piece. Note that there is a current organization using the name Europe Brief News that does appear reliable, but they are not the same entity - the current one was founded in 2020. |
? It could arguably contain WP:SIGCOV, but I'm not convinced; it uses a lot of words but says very little about Euro-Med HRM, and WP:NCORP requires that the coverage is sufficient to "makes it possible to write more than a very brief, incomplete stub about the organization". However, this is a lesser issue than the reliability of the source. | ✘ No | |
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/3190 | About-self | ? | Significant coverage of a project launched by Euro-Med HRM, no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/11/career-assassination-dws-scapegoating-of-arab-employees | Passing mention of a press release from Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://www.nonviolenceinternational.net/many_faces_wann | Appears written by We Are Not Numbers | ? | Significant coverage of We are Not Numbers, a project launched by Euro-Med HRM, but not of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://www.middleeasteye.net/features/deported-israels-war-against-palestine-solidarity-activists | Written by the secretary of Euro-Med HRM | ? | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
https://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/128695 | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of We are Not Numbers, a project launched by Euro-Med HRM, but not of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
We Are Not Numbers: Junge Stimmen aus Gaza | A book written by We Are Not Numbers | ? | ? | ✘ No |
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/struggles-triumphs-palestinian/ | ? | Significant coverage of We are Not Numbers, a project launched by Euro-Med HRM, but not of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
https://web.archive.org/web/20160824141709/http://www.daysofpalestine.com/news/israel-bans-right-activist-entering-gaza/ | ? | Single sentence of coverage of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://www.972mag.com/gaza-fence-stories-hebrew/ | ? | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/5/german-court-rules-palestinian-ex-dw-journalist-sacking-unlawful | Passing mention of a Euro-Med HRM investigation | ✘ No | ||
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5039/Euro-Med-Monitor%27s-We-Are-Not-Numbers-project-celebrates-graduation-of-new-batch-of-writers | About-self | ? | ✘ No | |
https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5562/Euro-Med-Monitor%E2%80%99s-project-We-Are-Not-Numbers-launches-17th-cohort-of-writers | About-self | ? | ✘ No | |
https://news.trust.org/item/20210902130009-tk186/ | ? | Two quotes from Euro-Med HRM; syndicated from a Reuters article which is used seperately as a reference | ✘ No | |
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/they-told-us-they-hate-africans-hundreds-detained-deported-abu-dhabi-2021-09-02/ | Two quotes from Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/tori-58446660 | Two quotes from Euro-Med HRM. Appears to be identical to the two reuters and truth.org sources linked above, except translated into Pidgin | ✘ No | ||
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1437749/saudi-arabia-human-rights-abuse-minister-disappeared | ~ Most of the coverage related to Euro-Med HRM consists of quotes | WP:DAILYEXPRESS | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://reliefweb.int/report/turkey/risks-refugees-disabilities-face-turkey-how-mitigate-risks-and-challenges-shape-apt | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
https://europebriefnews.com/2017/12/09/euro-med-monitor/ | ? See earlier discussion of Europe Brief New's reliability | Significant coverage of a report from the Euro-Med HRM, but not of the Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/world/middleeast/fleeing-gaza-only-to-face-treachery-and-disaster-at-sea-.html | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1437749/saudi-arabia-human-rights-abuse-minister-disappeared | WP:DAILYEXPRESS | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | |
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jordan-arrests-hundreds-of-teachers-after-violent-clashes-zzg7ppsvh | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-war-survivor-commemorates-victims-paintings-2022-05-26/ | Passing mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No | ||
https://palestine.unwomen.org/en/stories/feature-story/2022/05/zainab-al-qolaq-a-survivor-of-an-israeli-airstrike-on-gaza-in-may-2021-tells-her-story | ? | ? | No mention of Euro-Med HRM | ✘ No |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
Sources that describe only a specific topic related to an organization should not be regarded as providing significant coverage of that organization.As an aside, while Common Dreams is not at RSP, discussions at RSN lean towards it being unreliable.
The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, a Geneva-based Human Rights NGO, reported that the law legitimized censorship and restricted freedom of expression (Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor 2020).Not even SIGCOV of their report, let alone SIGCOV of the organization.
PA Security also commonly targets opposition. The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor documented 1,274 arbitrary detentions in the West Bank in 2015 and 1,089 summonses by Palestinian Security Services. The human rights violations targeted mostly individuals affiliated with Hamas or who opposed PA policies, including about 35 journalists and human rights activists, 476 university students, and 67 teachers/professors (Euro-Med 2016).Again, not even SIGCOV of their report, let alone SIGCOV of the organization. BilledMammal ( talk) 14:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Advocate for the human rights of all persons across Europe and the MENA region, particularly those who live under occupation, in the throes of war or political unrest and/or have been displaced due to persecution or armed conflict.Further, they normally provide
a profile in the words of the organization itself. The coverage is neither significant nor independent.
describ[ing] only a specific topic related to an organization. A report is not a "topic." Brusquedandelion ( talk) 02:25, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
sources that describe only a specific topic related to an organization should not be regarded as providing significant coverage of that organization.BilledMammal ( talk) 16:36, 21 January 2024 (UTC) Updated BilledMammal ( talk) 18:40, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor does not publish any financial date on its website, reflecting a complete lack of transparency and accountabilityand
Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor (Euro-Med Monitor) consistently spreads blood libels and conspiracy theories about Israel, and accuses Israel of “apartheid,” genocide,” “ethnic cleansing,” “collective punishment,” and “war crimes.”The rest is limited to quotes from Euro-Med and affiliated individuals and thus doesn't contribute to WP:SIGCOV as the quotes aren't independent coverage.
Source assessment table:
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Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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ample references to it | ? A link to Google Scholar search results. No specific source provided. | ? A link to Google Scholar search results. No specific source provided. | ? A link to Google Scholar search results. No specific source provided. | ? Unknown |
this paper published in the Lancet | Authors include the founder and chairman of Euro-Med HRM | Coverage is limited to detailing Euro-Med HRM's activities in preparing the report: "The field researchers of Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor covered 338 (64%) of the total 530 children killed. They focused extensively on mass attacks because it was difficult to cover hundreds of attacks taking place at the same time for 50 days." No WP:SIGCOV of the Euro-Med HRM itself. | ✘ No | |
UNRWA published press releases 1 | Republished press release from Euro-Med HRM | ? | Coverage of a primary report from Euro-Med HRM; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
UNRWA published press releases 2 | Republished press release from Euro-Med HRM | ? | Coverage of a statement from Euro-Med HRM; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No |
Their reports are routinely picked up by RS | Coverage of a call from Euro-Med HRM to free a Tunisian prisoner; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | ||
) Watchdog Submits Evidence of Israeli Executions of Gaza Civilians to UN, ICC in Common Dreams | ~ While Common Dreams is not at RSP, discussions at RSN lean towards it being unreliable | Coverage of a report from Euro-Med HRM; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | |
Rights at Stake and the COVID-19 Pandemic: Two Special Issues of the Journal of Human Rights Scholarly Citation. | Coverage is "The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, a Geneva-based Human Rights NGO, reported that the law legitimized censorship and restricted freedom of expression (Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor 2020)." Not even SIGCOV of their report, let alone SIGCOV of the organization. | ✘ No | ||
National and International Civilian Protection Strategies in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict Schoarly Citation. | Coverage is "PA Security also commonly targets opposition. The Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor documented 1,274 arbitrary detentions in the West Bank in 2015 and 1,089 summonses by Palestinian Security Services. The human rights violations targeted mostly individuals affiliated with Hamas or who opposed PA policies, including about 35 journalists and human rights activists, 476 university students, and 67 teachers/professors (Euro-Med 2016)." Not even SIGCOV of their report, let alone SIGCOV of the organization. | ✘ No | ||
Israel 'stealing organs' from bodies in Gaza, alleges human rights group | Coverage of an allegation from Euro-Med HRM; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | ||
Allegations of Organ Theft by Israel Add Insult to Injury in Gaza | Coverage of a report from Euro-Med HRM; no significant coverage of Euro-Med HRM itself | ✘ No | ||
https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/euro-mediterranean-human-rights-monitor | ? | WP:CRUNCHBASE; source is deprecated | ? | ✘ No |
https://www.lobbyfacts.eu/datacard/euro-med-human-rights-monitor?rid=326186932081-66&sid=142920 | Mirrors other sources, which lack independence. For example, the significant coverage comes directly from the Euro-Med HRM's website, and other coverage comes from the EU transparency register, which is populated by submissions from the organization | ? | ✘ No | |
https://uia.org/s/or/en/1122281718 | They normally provide "a profile in the words of the organization itself" | ? | Only one sentence of coverage; "Advocate for the human rights of all persons across Europe and the MENA region, particularly those who live under occupation, in the throes of war or political unrest and/or have been displaced due to persecution or armed conflict." | ✘ No |
3 by Richard A. Falk | Richard A. Falk is the chairman of Euro-Med HRM's Board of Directors | ? | ✘ No | |
4 by Reliefweb | Republication of a Euro-Med HRM press release | ? | ✘ No | |
5 by Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency | Coverage is of EuroMed Rights, not Euro-Med HRM - different organization, with a very similar name. | ✘ No | ||
NGO Monitor's article 6 | Editor who presented the source has !voted for it to be deprecated | Two sentences of coverage containing highly contentious claims. The closest we have to WP:SIGCOV, but not good enough - particularily given how the source is about to be found unreliable at RSN. | ✘ No | |
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{ source assess table}}. |
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed,
Rosguill
talk
14:13, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Independence of the content (or intellectual independence): the content must not be produced by interested parties. Often a related party produces a narrative that is then copied, regurgitated, and published in whole or in part by independent parties (as exemplified by churnalism). Independent content, in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject.
The information in the Register is provided by the registrants themselves, on the understanding that they are ultimately responsible for its accuracy. The Secretariat monitors the quality of the Register’s content and reserves the right to de-register ineligible registrants, including those found not to observe the code of conduct.Their disclaimer says information is
not necessarily comprehensive, complete, accurate or up to date.
As stated on its website, information on the official EU Register is provided by registrants themselves, making it the sole responsibility of those organisations. It is recognised that some entries in the official register are inaccurate, incomplete or otherwise misleading.Based on this information, the EU Transparency Register and those relying on them are not reliable sources because the register does not have reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. S0091 ( talk) 16:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Base articles on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.BilledMammal ( talk) 13:38, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
The Wordsmith
Talk to me
22:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
I'm not seeing significant coverage of the organization
Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor’s leadership routinely posts antisemitic and pro-Hamas content onlineas being
coverage of a specific topic related to the organization? And what topic might that be, may I ask?
The Geneva-based human rights group has been at the forefront of exposing Israel’s crimes against humanity committed in occupied Palestinian territories
Israeli institutions... have attempted to spoil Euro-Med’s standing
I suspect that the editors arguing to keep this article would also reject the UN Watch article.
notoriously biased and antisemitic, and
routinely posts antisemitic and pro-Hamas content online. That isn't significant coverage of the organization.