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In this article, simply being the nth oldest person alive is not enough for it to be notable. Unless she becomes the oldest person alive, I don't see this article being notable.
Interstellarity (
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19:32, 29 December 2023 (UTC)reply
1. In-depth coverage over multiple sources - Francis has news articles from multiple RS such as ABC and WaPo covering her life specifically in multiple articles over the course of multiple of her birthdays (i.e. she isn't some fad that people celebrated when she turned 110 and then ignored her forever).
2. Primary sources - Article still maintains RS without primary sources or primary documents.
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She also avoids the invalid criteria listed, such as the relationship thing (she is the subject, does not share a relationship to one), and does not rely on the web rankings for significance. Her achievement of longevity alone (as supported by the GRG) is her notability. While the "nth oldest person alive" is her claim to fame in the article, she exhibits more than enough RS for an achievement for notability imo.
EytanMelech (
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19:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)reply
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Usernameunique: I just read your comments on this page and the other page. I should've done a quick Google search to see if there are plenty of reliable sources that demonstrate that these two people are notable. I just figured that the reason for notability was only because of her age and nothing else. From now on, before I nominate oldest people pages, I will be more careful in doing so. I own my mistakes and it was totally my fault for doing so. Thank you for your understanding.
Interstellarity (
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22:28, 29 December 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep this has plenty socures and info to be notable the old "being old doesn't mean someone is notable" is a inherently biased and subjective argument that was exploited to delete almost every page of this topic hopefully this isnt the case here — Preceding
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