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The result was delete. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Eden Fine Art
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Shamelessly promotional, and sourced to press releases and artsy, a notoriously unreliable source.
- [1] is an interview with uncredited artsy staff with one of their advertisers. It's a "case study" in disguise, not independent reporting.
- [2] is a commercial listing
- [3] is press release, republished by a real-estate magazine
- [4] co-star is a real-estate news site, the article a regurgitated press release (the same quote appears in multiple sources)
- [5] The standard writes "Eden Fine Art, which has exhibited works by such leading lights as Andy Warhol and Dorit Levinstein". OK, that made me laugh. Dorit Levinstein is not quite on par with Andy Warhol. Anyway, Eden doesn't represent the estate of Andy Warhol. They may have bought something at auction and resold it.
- [6] the culture trip is user-contributed content, not a reliable source
- [7] cls is a manufacturer of lighting fixtures
- [8] artsy is not a reliable source
- [9] prnewswire dissemniates press releases
- [10] is paid content
- [11] not sure what to make of this. kulturehub has never been used as a source for any wikipedia article. the article is a description of a birthday party/reception with media provided by the subject. Doubt that this is independent reporting.
- [12] amp3pr is a PR agency
- [13] more birthday news, undated and uncredited, this time with "exclusive photos we snapped at the Alec Monopoly exhibition", and featuring a youtube video uploaded by Eden. Doubt that this is independent reporting. Those "exclusive photos" photos have exif tags that shows they were made years before the birtday party took place.
- [14] doesn't mention the subject other than that "Alec Monopoly is flying across the world with Eden Fine Art to tag the French Alps"
- [15] is an online magazine that publishes event announcements. Eden gets a mention as his gallery, but nothing more.
- [16] artsy is not a reliable source
- [17] bellesdemeures is a website that advertises luxury homes
- [18] artsy is not a reliable source
- [19] is a "luxury magazine" that republishes press releases
- [20] is the blog of a hotel
- [21] artsy is not a reliable source
Vexations ( talk) 01:32, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
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You're referring its listing content, yes? Not editorial? I don't see any threads at RSN czar 23:04, 4 July 2018 (UTC)artsy, a notoriously unreliable source
- Artsy has a mix of content. Their magazine has articles that have a byline and are clearly identified as editorial (their URL starts with https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial. That's not a problem. The bit that affects us most, I think is the artists section,
https://www.artsy.net/artists which is designed to look neural and independent, but is really a platform for galleries to sell works. As
https://www.artsy.net/gallery-partnerships helpfully explains: Promote your works and artists to the largest online art audience.
Vexations (
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11:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- thx just wanted to confirm czar 13:36, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Artsy has a mix of content. Their magazine has articles that have a byline and are clearly identified as editorial (their URL starts with https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial. That's not a problem. The bit that affects us most, I think is the artists section,
https://www.artsy.net/artists which is designed to look neural and independent, but is really a platform for galleries to sell works. As
https://www.artsy.net/gallery-partnerships helpfully explains: Promote your works and artists to the largest online art audience.
Vexations (
talk)
11:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 18:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. Clearly created for promotional reasons. If the topic is notable, someone else will write objectively about it sooner or later. Deb ( talk) 13:17, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Delete I agree with Vexation's analysis, but I also want to put a stake in the ground that I think this effort to purge galleries under NCORP misunderstands the ways that galleries and the artworld work. Trying to understand an art gallery purely as a "business concern" misunderstands their purpose. The discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meessen De Clercq is a perfect example of this. This isn't the place to have that conversation, but I think that conversation needs to be had.
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