The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Keep - While this article does need inline references and is apparently being updated by the subject of the article, there is no basis here for deletion. --|Uncle Milty |
talk|17:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)reply
To the nominator. One of our most important rules here is
assume good faith. This article was created back in 2006 by
User:NorthernThunder and I see no evidence that he's anybody's sock puppet. However, I see that you only have 3 edits, 2 to this discussion. One might wonder if you might be somebody's sock puppet if we were basing our judgement only on edit count. Therefore, since "sock puppetry" is the only reason you offer for why this article should be deleted, give me a reason why I shouldn't close this discussion right now. The only problem I see with the article is that while it appears to have sources, it lacks inline citations. --
Ron Ritzman (
talk)
00:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep. I see no evidence of sockpuppetry. If anyone has a legitimate reason to delete the article, they can renominate it for deletion separately. --
Metropolitan90(talk)04:12, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Comment: On the subject of possible sockpuppets, there are two very suspicious SPA accounts (
Dtb747) and
DTB77) with initials matching the article subject and having only edited this article. Then there's a new issue that has come to light with the latest edits (another SPA?) that removed the subject's middle name from the entire article: Other than the birth year I find no concrete evidence anywhere that David Tristan Birkin (the actor) and David Birkin (the award-winning photographer/actor) are the same person. However, either one of them is notable enough for an article to exist. And one more issue: The nominator's user name leads me to believe there may be a COI issue with this nomination. Conspiracies abound. --|Uncle Milty |
talk|04:30, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
I'm not sure either. It's quite possible that they are both the same guy and he's trying to distance himself from his "child actor" career on Star Trek TNG and others. Here's his
Memory Alpha entry. Perhaps we should revert to
this revision until we can sort this out. It's unsourced but it doesn't include anything but the basics that are already on IMDB. --
Ron Ritzman (
talk)
13:38, 1 June 2011 (UTC)reply
Keep as article on notable photographer article... Remove the "T" and rename "David Birkin (photographer)", until such time as it can be confirmed that this is that same person as "David Birkin (actor)"... which may be unlikely, as the photographer was taking pix in
Afghanistan in 2004,
Borneo in 2005, and
Mongolia in 2006... and it would seem unlikely that someone who was performing as Silvius in
Sir Peter Hall's production of As You Like It[1] would be in two places at once. There is a website for
award-winning photographer
David Birkin born in
1977 who appears to have enough coverage] to meet
WP:GNG through
WP:CREATIVE.
[2][3][4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12][13][14][15] I am willing to accept the co-incidence of there being two seperate persons having the same first and last name, and both being notable for different reasons. HOWEVER... if we can find an image or a reliable source that shows
David Tristan Birkin (actor) to be the same person as
David Birkin (photographer) the information in the earlier
version can be included. Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.10:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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