The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. There isn't quite consensus to salt the title, but I will not provide a draftspace copy (as I usually would be willing to do in WP:TOOSOON cases) unless and until the creator shows they are here to contribute to the encyclopedia. Vanamonde ( Talk) 02:36, 24 March 2023 (UTC) reply

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Per WP:YOUNGATH, High School athletes generally are non-notable. None of the sources listed meet the requirement of "substantial and prolonged coverage that is: (1) independent of the subject; and (2) clearly goes beyond WP:ROUTINE coverage." I don't consider him a college athlete because, as the article says, he has not yet played any college games. Bensci54 ( talk) 17:00, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, Connecticut, and Washington, D.C.. Skynxnex ( talk) 18:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete. There is some coverage, e.g. this and this, but considering he hasn't even played in college yet, I'd say its likely WP:TOOSOON. I'd be alright with draftification, as it seems he has good potential to be notable at some point in the future. BeanieFan11 ( talk) 18:27, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Draftification has already been attempted but the article was moved directly back to mainspace by the author. I do not have confidence that the same would not occur again. Bensci54 ( talk) 19:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Thank you for showing interested in this article. I really appreciate your insight. I have conducted months of research on this student athlete and I feel that I have found enough information that demonstrates his credibility. I only have presented a high school photo in the article because I feel that it gets the point across that Danny is a up and coming athlete. Also, with the entire Name, Image, and Likeness culture that athletes are presented with today, I feel that this page creation is important. Throughout his athletic career, Danny has gone viral with millions of views granting him the right to be represented on this platform. Also, he was recruited by a lot of notable schools and I found that some of those schools included Colorado, UCLA, Northwestern, Vanderbilt and the list goes on. He is currently battling for the starting job and has a great change of changing the Hoyas program around. Also, Danny is continuing the tradition of playing Division One Football. Multiple members of his family have played at the highest level. Once again thank you for your help! WalterKlaus3 ( talk) 19:10, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply

• Delete While there is possibility of him becoming notable, it is way wp:toosoon. The sources only mention his protentional and seem quite promot-y. I would also like to mention that the images, last I checked, lacked a license from the school or Lauter. ✶Mitch 199811✶ 20:12, 16 March 2023 (UTC) reply
• Delete per nom and WP:YOUNGATH. In order for a player to merit a stand-alone article before he's even played the college game, he needs to be a top-tier recruit. Lauter was a mere three-star recruit (four- and five-stars are the elite recruits) and was not ranked among the top players either at quarterback or from his home state (see here). Cbl62 ( talk) 00:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Note: User:WalterKlaus3 moved the article to draftspace following the nomination. Nonetheless, the AfD should proceed, and the result IMO should be to delete. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  What's the proper procedure here? It looks like from WP:AfD that moving a page that is being discussed is not forbidden, but Drafts also aren't valid targets for AfDs. Does that mean we need to take this to MfD? I am surprised that we don't have coverage for this sort of activity in our procedures somewhere. Bensci54 ( talk) 17:11, 17 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Common sense dictates that a user cannot avoid the outcome of an AfD (one that is already leaning "delete") by simply unilaterally moving their work to draft space. The AfD should run its course, and if the outcome is "delete", the outcome should apply to the draft. Cbl62 ( talk) 14:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  Further note. The creator/mover ( User:WalterKlaus3) appears to be a WP:SPA whose only substantive edits are to this article and the article on Lauter's high school. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC) reply

  His user page suggests he is editing with a motive to help Lauter to obtain name, image and likeness funding: "I also support student athletes with the opportunity for support in the new NIL culture." Sorry, but that's not a valid reason for creating a Wikipedia article on an athlete who hasn't even played college ball. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:40, 17 March 2023 (UTC) reply

• Re-draftify and temporarily salt mainspace title until 1 August 2023 (it is highly unlikely the subject would do anything to become notable before training camp at the earliest). Subject does not meet GNG or YOUNGATH as he is yet to play a down of college ball. Though very possible he could become notable down the road. Frank Anchor 15:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC) reply
• Comment I have this moved back to main space until this AFD is closed and reposted the AFD tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:54, 23 March 2023 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.