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The result was merge to Cain as an ATD supported by most participants here. Owen× ☎ 15:41, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
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Subject fails WP:GNG. The subject is in the Lesser Key of Solomon book but I cannot find sources to back up these many other claims. Short of the Lesser Key book, the subject is not notable and, since this article has been unsourced for twenty years, a fair bit of this may have caused citogenesis. Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Religion, and Ireland. Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:58, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- It turns up in another encyclopaedia ( Bane 2014, p. 96) and the sources that it cites at the end of its article do not include Wikipedia. Two of them, for what it is worth, are books by Lauron William de Laurence and a third is Collin de Plancy's Dictionary of witchcraft. These three significantly pre-date Wikipedia. The stuff about dogs and thrush can be found in Godwin 1994, p. 64, a third encyclopaedia. The mythology is verifiable as mythology.
- Weak delete or Merge- the sources found by Uncle G indicate that this is certainly not a hoax, but I'm unable to dig up further references (especially significant coverage) in reliable sources. On balance, delete (or Merge to Cain. — Ganesha811 ( talk) 02:35, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Times like this I wish that Uncle G would break their habit of neutality and let us know what they think should happen with this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:17, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Significant coverage found in three reliable sources (Lesser Key of Solomon, Encyclopedia of Demons in World Religions and Cultures, and Godwin's Cabalistic Encyclopedia: A Complete Guide to Cabalistic Magick). Merge to Cain can be considered outside AfD. ~ Kvng ( talk) 15:41, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect the coverage still appears to be trivial mentions, and not enough for WP:SIGCOV. This can be covered at Cain, with a short section based on reliable sources, after the unverifiable information is removed. Shooterwalker ( talk) 14:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 11:05, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/redirect per Shooterwalker. No WP:SIGCOV, insufficient sourcing. Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 17:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
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