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Subject is a lawyer who has not held any political position, who is a candidate presenting New York's 19th congressional district in coming November 2018 general election.
Fails on the ground of
WP:NPOL -sources are mainly routine election coverage as would be same in all candidates. If subject win the general election in Nov then recreate the page would be welcome but not until then.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)08:13, 29 June 2018 (UTC)reply
*Comment:Page passes
WP:N as sources meet the "significant coverage" requirement stipulated in WP:N. Furthermore, subject just won the Democratic primary and has become the Democratic nominee to the office.
CASSIOPEIA's reasoning would hold merit if this were before the primary; however, the subject being the nominee - in addition to the sources passing
WP:N - creates sufficient notability to warrant the page's continued existence.
Raider1918 (
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18:38, 29 June 2018 (UTC)reply
*Comment: (Note wording in
WP:NPOL as cited by
CASSIOPEIA: "page can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." Subject clearly passes this test.)
Raider1918 (
talk)
18:40, 29 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Strong delete The claims that Delgado somehow passes notability are inherently flawed. All the coverage of Delgado is in light of his run for office. This is not enough to give him notability. A candidate for office has to be notable for something else to keep the article. Every candidate for office gets significant coverage in some publications indepent of the candidate, but that does not mean they are notable.
John Pack Lambert (
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20:56, 30 June 2018 (UTC)reply
Furthermore,
John Pack Lambert seems to omit the critical fact that Delgado won the primary election and is the Democratic nominee. He is not simply "any candidate." There is a great difference in degree of notability between any candidate who chooses to enter a race and one who successfully becomes the party's nominee (on that note, there are many Wikipedia pages about unsuccessful candidates for public office, whose only claim to notability are their public office campaigns - see, for example,
Jim Rogers).
Raider1918 (
talk)
00:59, 1 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Please read
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Rogers may not be notable enough for an article either, but the fact that he has one is not in and of itself a reason why this article has to be kept — it may, rather, be the case that his article needs to be deleted but nobody had noticed it until you pointed it out. As well, he was an unsuccessful candidate in a presidential primary, not in just one single legislative district, so regardless of whether he's actually notable enough for an article or not he's not an equivalent situation to Delgado: being a candidate in a national presidential primary is not going to be judged by the exactly the same standards as being a candidate for the House of Representatives, because they're very different contexts.
Bearcat (
talk)
18:47, 3 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Delete. Every candidate in every election always receives some campaign coverage, so the existence of some campaign coverage is not enough in and of itself to say that he passes
WP:GNG and is therefore exempted from having to clear
WP:NPOL. No prejudice against recreation in November if he wins the seat, but merely being a candidate is not enough to already get him in the door today.
Bearcat (
talk)
18:43, 3 July 2018 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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