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The result was delete. j⚛e decker talk 20:12, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
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I have not found any significant quantity of notable sources that could suggest notability. A previous speedy deletion was withdrawn so that the creator and main contributor to the article could find better references, but the article still relies on a single primary source and on the web I've found mainly primary or affiliated sources. I've searched for this name in Google News and Yahoo! News and I have not found any citation. I'm opening an AfD so that other editors could contribute to ascertain the notability of this person. LowLevel73 (talk) 00:06, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello there
As this page is less than 24 hours old and the 5th was Bonfire night, I have not had a reasonable or significant time to add more sections to the page. I have been working on three other pages, specifically the Pirate Party Wales, Pirate Party UK and Bridgend (UK Parliament constituency) which currently intertwine so I would ask that more time be allocated so that their purposes become clear.
Here are some quick bullet points for why Andy is notable:
- He is the prospective Wales Green Party Leader and there is a Green Party Surge in the UK at the moment
- He is running for MP in Bridgend and there is a Green Party Surge in the UK at the moment
- He was the lead candidate for Green MEP but stepped down to support an MEP from a different party - unprecedented and big news
- His views on fracking is deemed news worthy by multiple sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drowz0r ( talk • contribs) 00:59, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
Andy Chyba can be found in many places online. This will be a bit of a mess and in no particular order, so some sources will be better than others, I've not had time to sort them yet:
World View Show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPN7eLcmSBM#t=16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D3BTXyuRos
Green Party official blog:
Bright Green:
http://brightgreenscotland.org/index.php/tag/andy-chyba/
Andy has a book published called "The Asylum of the Universe"
RT News Speak with Andy on anti-fracking
http://rt.com/op-edge/fracking-renewable-energy-policy-116/ http://rt.com/news/chevron-fracking-protest-clashes-884/
Andy Chyba "live" on RT news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ep1G8lSsJA (at around 2:21)
The Green Dragon:
http://agreenwales.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/we-are-backing-pippa.html Backing for Andy's opposition but quite a lot of mentioning on Andy here
Guardian (left wing news paper, big in the UK) news paper, one of the many people credited was Andy Chyba:
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/jul/26/green-party-immigration
Wales Online (Welsh newspaper, big in Wales where Andy is residing):
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/campaigners-raise-alarm-over-proposed-1855462
Obviously these will take time to go through to find the most significant parts. There are no doubt other links that I've just not really gone through yet.
Additionally perhaps more recognisable sources of information such as the BBC often do not give any coverage to The Green Party (the Green Party are currently threatening to press legal action because of this) so alternative sources are generally where you find information on them, such as independent blogs or alternative news channels like RT.
Another I found about Andy Chyba: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2012/05/2012514505415433.ht
The sources just need compiling into something more readable and in a better order... are are no doubt other sources, I just need more time to put them together. You'll see my edit history is rather large :)
Drowz0r ( talk) 01:02, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Drowz0r ( talk) 00:53, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:13, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wales-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerly HMSSolent)| lambast 01:14, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
The claims of notability present in the article are not things that get a person into Wikipedia — they boil down to candidacies for offices that the subject hasn't won, which fails WP:NPOL. And nearly all of the improved sources that Drowz0r offered above don't get him over WP:GNG either, as most of them are primary sources — and he's not the subject of the few that are properly reliable, but is merely namechecked as the provider of a short comment about something else (which doesn't confer encyclopedic notability either). And publishing a book isn't a free notability pass either — writers don't get Wikipedia articles until you can source them past WP:CREATIVE. So no, there isn't any substantive demonstration of notability here. No prejudice against recreation if and when he wins an office that would get him over a notability hump, but right now he's a delete. Bearcat ( talk) 20:12, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete. When and if he's elected to one of these offices then we can reconsider. Otherwise he's not notable. -- Necrothesp ( talk) 14:43, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
- Delete, generally our practice is to create articles after a politician has been elected, unless they're clearly notable for other reasons (which it seems Chyba is not). I see no compelling reason to make an exception here. Lankiveil ( speak to me) 10:31, 14 November 2014 (UTC).
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